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To: PartyTime who wrote (3898)	4/18/2006 4:52:13 PM
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"Gutless Military Leadership??" Betsy's Page Judith Apter Klinghoffer is no fan of Rumsfeld, but she has lost patience with the media obsession with six retired generals who have been criticizing Rumsfeld. <<< I am writing in the hope of lowering my blood pressure. Islamists around the world are on a rampage and all the media focus is on retired generals who did not dare confront their superiors or even tell the truth to the president when asked to do so in the most direct manner. I have called for Rumsfeld's replacement months ago but that is besides the point. For the generals to attack the Secretary of Defense on the issue of troop numbers in Iraq in 2003 is ridiculous. I want to know whether they think we need more troops in Iraq today or tomorrow. To hear two and three star generals whine that Rumsfeld is too intimidating causes one to ask who else can so easily intimidate them? Are we talking perhaps of the insurgents, Ahmadinejad, Assad Fils, the North Korean or China? Imagine being a soldier who has served under the command of so easily intimidated a general. Their retired generals' contention that they are speaking for their active duty colleagues merely makes matters worse. On This Week Joe Klein, whom no one can accuse of being a Bush fan, said that Bush repeatedly asked the generals in Iraq if they had everything they needed and they repeatedly assured him they did. But when Jerry Bremer asked them what they would do with an additional division, they said, we'd clear Baghdad. Excuse me? The American army in Iraq does not have a single general with enough guts to respond to the president's question with "depends on what you want us to do?" >>> Sorry, guys, civil control of the military is not our problem. Gutless military leadership is. betsyspage.blogspot.com hnn.us

To: PartyTime who wrote (3898)	4/18/2006 5:24:34 PM
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<< "Don't you get the hint? That people who don't ordinarily complain about war are today complaining about the war?" >> Don't you get it? If it weren't for lying scumbags & a MSM & DNC willing to uncritically give them a platform to smear, slander & misinform, most Americans would actually have a reality based view of the GWOT. GOTCHYA Jonah Goldberg The Corner From Brit Hume's "Political Grapevine" <<< Former Clinton CENTCOM commander, Anthony Zinni — the most prominent of the retired generals attacking Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld — now says that, in the run-up to the war in Iraq, "What bothered me ... [was that] I was hearing a depiction of the intelligence that didn't fit what I knew. There was no solid proof, that I ever saw, that Saddam had WMD." But in early 2000, Zinni told Congress "Iraq remains the most significant near-term threat to U.S. interests in the Arabian Gulf region," adding, "Iraq probably is continuing clandestine nuclear research, [and] retains stocks of chemical and biological munitions ... Even if Baghdad reversed its course and surrendered all WMD capabilities, it retains scientific, technical, and industrial infrastructure to replace agents and munitions within weeks or months." corner.nationalreview.com foxnews.com