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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (63535)	4/19/2006 3:27:40 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 173976

>>>There are many reasons to question the timeliness of going to war on the Regime of Saddam Hussein, but I can find no fault with a president for harboring the idea of going to war with Saddam under the circumstances.<<< Under what circumstances, false pretenses? Bush and Cheney have changed at least three times the war they are fighting in Iraq. How can you, a responsible citizen, not stand up and protest when your elected leaders lie to you over the most serious matter of them all: going to war? Moreover, the War on Iraq is illegal and it is a preemptive war that opens the doors for other nations to do the same. Indeed, this is a true instance where America has not led by example! >>>Saddam and his regime were brutal and tyrannical. They established power and spread their influence by stepping over dead bodies and by torturing the population into submission to their brutal control. They tortured children in the presence of their parents … is it any wonder that he received a 100% approval rating, just before we invaded? Saddam had listed us at the top of his list of enemies to his regime on more than one occasion. There was every likelihood that the sanctions would be nullified and that he would use the wealth of the region to establish him self as a super power enemy of the US… he had indicated his intent to do just that many times.<<< Yes, Saddam was a bad leader who ruled with an iron hand, fist and foot. But ya know what? Had Dick Cheney been in Saddam's place he'd probably rule similarly. Already, Iraqis believe living under the American occupation is far worse than it had been living under Saddam. With regard to what you say he did to children? You'd have to cite me a reputable reference on that. But since we're on the subject of children, do you think it's a good American move to have an American public relations firm make false claims that Saddam removed babies from incubators, this at the behest of an American president who wanted to paint the picture as badly as it could be painted? But, overall, when he was America's dictator he was an A-Okay dude, right? >>>Not only were the sanctions becoming corrupted and ineffective, they were being used by the Saddam Regime to further brutalize and annihilate his enemies within the region of Iraq. Saddam used the sanctions to strengthen his Regime forces while allowing the majority of the population to sicken and die under the provisions. He was essentially using them as an excuse to commit a massive genocide on the non-regime population of Iraq. I protested them for that reason.<<< Again, please show reputable references to support this. Read the testimony of Kamel Hussein who told America that Saddam had destroyed his WMD, and also that Saddam was close to nuclear in the late-80s (Bush only reported the latter, not the former here!) where he describes how effective the UN weapons inspectors actually were. And throughout the "no-fly zone" period Saddam was completely ineffective in repressing either the Kurds to the north or the Shiites to the south. Your statements above seems to indicate that you're reading a variation of historical fact in order to support a particular political point of view. >>>It would have been irresponsible for any sitting president not to consider war with Saddam’s regime as a very real possibility, and to have developed contingencies in that regard. It is not like we didn’t try to make the alternatives (UN involvement) work.<<< No, the US didn't make any alternatives. I don't think you're up on the leaked memos. I recommend more research on your part.