To: michael97123 who wrote (4292 ) 4/22/2006 7:55:23 AM From: Oral Roberts Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14758 Protesting the ProtestorsSweet Nectar »Clinton’s Generals Lately there has been a rash of retired generals lashing out against the secretary of defense, and the national command authority overall. Lots of hay is being made by the left about these three or four individuals–so much so that James Carville told Matt Lauer that the military is on the brink of a coup. Well, it’s pretty safe to say that Mr Carville is a bit off base on this one, and that perhaps there are some interesting reasons why the generals (GEN Zinni (ret) and MG Batiste (ret)) are up in arms right now. First let’s look at General Zinni, the former CENTCOM commander. He was the man responsible for the war plans and readiness in the Middle East prior to General Tommy Franks. Zinni claims that the war plans used in invading Iraq were flawed from the start, that there weren’t enough troops built into the plan, and that the post-invasion plans were not thought through. Here’s the rub. Zinni’s plan (according to General Franks) sucked. They were ten years old, worked with legacy doctrine, old assumptions, dated intelligence, and a force structure that was simply unavailable. In short, Zinni’s plans needed to be thrown out and redone from scratch. The next problem is that Zinni didn’t have much of a plan for a post-war Iraq either. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it. The military is just one tool in a strategic toolbox. The state department is another one. In short, General Zinni is pissed that General Franks and Donald Rumsfeld took one look at his assumptions, his plans, and his intent, and promptly chucked them out the window. Zinni got his feelings and his tremendous ego hurt. Now he is crying like a big baby. MG Batiste is pretty much claiming the same thing as Zinni. Lack of planning, lack of troops, etc. He relies on his experience in Bosnia and Kosovo to strengthen his credibility that he was involved in peace keeping and nation-building, and is therefore very qualified to wax eloquent on the subject. First, the Balkans is not Iraq and any comparison of the two is apples and oranges. Second, Batiste hasn’t ever offered up what he would consider a plan for success, or given any details on how we should fix the problems in Iraq. He makes claims that the invasion plans were flawed and that Rumsfeld is responsible for the mess on the ground. No details given, just non-specific generalizations (no pun intended). He has also made it clear that he never spoke up while in uniform, and just went with the flow–and now he is out and speaking up. He admits “saluting the flag” and doing what he was told, but now must speak his conscience. He probably should have raised his concerns to his superiors while in uniform if his conscience bothered him so, instead of sounding like a disgruntled former employee. Both of the guys were Clinton’s generals. Both of these guys were “legacy” thinkers and unable to break the old paradigms. Both were your standard cookie-cutter senior leaders that got their feathers ruffled when Don Rumsfeld stepped on their delicate egos. Too bad. Marcus Read more here, here and here. Update: Read this from Blackfive. Update #2: More here, here and here.justbarkingmad.com