To: new2ethanol who wrote (75 ) 4/22/2006 2:33:17 AM From: Crabbe Respond to of 133 I like VRDM for a couple of reasons. I may be naive but I tend to believe press releases after I read between the lines and if they then still make sense. Veridium's first announcement of a "sale" of it's COIS™. Was a real stretch, The system was already installed and operating but the automatic controls were not yet operational, this was however the first public notice of the system. The rest of the announcements have to my knowledge been totally legit. A couple of things are glaring questions however, every "sale" but one has been just for phase one extraction not for phase two extraction. It makes no sense for a company to install the phase one COIS™ and not install the phase two COIS™. Each phase extracts approximately the same amount of corn oil, and neither has any up front cost to the ethanol producer. So to this extent I think Veridium may manage their news releases for maximum impact, i.e, waiting for maximum impact timing. It is interesting that Veridium, Inseq, and Greenshift all made their major advance together following by a couple of weeks the time Xethanol and Pacific Ethanol And Grand Prairie made their major advance. Greenshift, Veridium, and Inseq really have nothing to do with ethanol, Veridium and MeanGreen Biofuels are actually in Biodiesel. The only connection to ethanol is that Veridium supplies technology to ethanol producers that extracts the more valuable corn oil from dried distillers grain, leaving the DDG as a still valuable high protein animal feed. This has caused most observers to connect the three companies to ethanol. However, I believe something different happened and the timing of Veridium's first advance was April 7th. Looking at the ethanol pure plays and the Greenshift companies XTHN - 30 Mar - $5.80 close has been up nearly every day since to $14.36 today. PEIX - 24 Mar - $18.05 close - Steady rise till April 17th close of $33.88 GPRE - 23 Mar - $23.09 close - Steady rise till April 18th close of $48.10 The Greenshift companies however all started their rise together on April 7th well behind the ethanol pure plays. One significant thing happened on April 7th. Veridium had traded equity for debt a few weeks earlier. In the subsequent time frame there were thousands of trades for mostly 30,000 to 50,000 shares at a time. This is typical when a finance company gets equity for debt they sell the equity with the price of each sale in the range ~$1500-2000. At about 2 pm on April 7th those sales stopped, the equity had sold out, those sales had essentially capped Veridium at less than 5 cents from about the first of March. When the selling finally stopped Veridium was free to advance to it's proper level. Greenshift and Inseq in my opinion then followed Veridium. I predicted the gap up for April 10th that started the greenshift companies run. see post #34.Message 22338783 Greenshift has restructured it's holdings, transferring technology between the companies it holds such that Veridium is by far the strongest of its holdings, an example is the COIS™ system first owned by MeanGreen Biofuels, transferred to Veridium, MeanGreen is a wholly owned subsidiary of Greenshift. Another example is Sterling Planets (a wholly owned subsidiary of Greenshift) development of a Carbon Credit Trading System, partially transferred to Inseq, the other publicly traded company largely owned by Greenshift. Greenshift as a holding company needs a method to set and hold it's valuation, and holding 70% of Veridium, and 80% of Inseq, and setting them up for advancement is a way of doing that. Compare their charts, they closely track each other,. Do I think this is a pump and dump scheme? Pump and dump is rarely done by the company concerned (how can they personally profit as they have to ride the dump), other than massively unreported inside sales (a good ticket to the slammer), it usually is done by an outsider and takes a big audience so if anyone is doing a pump and dump it would be either me, or rrufff, trying to use the Silicon Investor for a pump and dump scheme. I think there are a lot of people interested in these stocks, with a public float of 255,000,000 Veridium went from an average daily sales of 6,714,673 before April 10th to 82,342,649 since. There has been no news releases of greater significance April 10th or since, as before April 10th. on 4 days Veridium traded 40% or more of its total public float. This is a synopsis of some of my ideas about Veridium, Only my Ideas. Do your own due diligence. r