To: TobagoJack who wrote (59238 ) 4/23/2006 11:02:31 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194 TJ, truth to tell: < the crux of the matter is simply that, at the basic level, i.e. usa made molds and tools, using same swedish/german specialty steel, costs 300 - 3,000% more than china-made same same, in factories owned by everybody from all around the world, and no amount of twiching, scheming, machinations, manipulations will change the very basics of competition. > Our neighbour is in the process of starting production of said molding machines in China, India and I think he said Thailand. They have designed a spiffing new design system for plastic injection molding to do a better job. He showed me their design and he is certainly onto a good thing. But costs are rapidly rising. Software designers in India are not working for a bowl of rice a day. Chinese in northern China are wanting more than 3 bowls of rice a day and in fact so much that Aki-san's company has moved production back to Japan to avoid the problems and not incur much more cost. I don't see why Indians and Chinese should work for less than others doing the same job. Maybe a bit less because there's more cost to off-shoring than the labour cost. But there are savings too, such as less Resource Management Act and Local Authority bureaucratic burden, not to mention central government taxation and a horde of government spivs all wanting to get their kleptocratic, bureaucratic, paws on the productive to justify their departments' existences. The USA can renege on debt very gradually. It doesn't need to be with a rush, frightening the monkeys. Softly, softly catchee monkey. As with the proverbial frog in cold water made boiling, USD holders can be cooked and not notice it until too late. Mqurice