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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (285450)4/27/2006 4:48:25 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1572385
 
Re: ...the Muslims are segregated...

Well, I agree with you to an extent. You should bear in mind, however, that those infamous suburb apartment blocks were not intended initially to house immigrants only:

Apartment block complexes with evocative names like the 'Quarter of the Pointed Oak' and 'Quarter of the Pyramids', they were once praised as a daring concept in town design -- creating self-sufficient communities with easy access to shops and other amenities.


LOL. Yes, and Harlem started life as an upper middle-income suburb of NY:

"The advent of new and better forms of transportation, as well as the rapidly increasing population of New York following the Civil War brought about the transformation of Harlem into a middle and upper-middle class neighbourhood. Although the New York and Harlem Railroad had operated from lower Manhattan to Harlem beginning in 1837, service was poor and unreliable and the trip was long. The impetus for new residential development in this area came with the arrival of three lines of elevated rail service which, by 1881, ran as far north as 129th Street, and by 1886 extended further north.

Beginning in the 1870s Harlem was the site of a massive wave of speculative development which resulted in the construction of numerous new single-family rowhouses, tenements, and luxury apartment houses, Commercial concerns and religious, educational, and cultural institutions, such as the distinguished Harlem Opera House on the West 125th Street, were established in Harlem to serve the expanding population. The western half of Harlem, though developed slightly later, became a fashionable and prosperous neighbourhood. Luxury elevator apartment buildings with the most modern amenities were constructed, such as the Graham Court Apartments built in 1898-1901 on Seventh Avenue (now 1923-1937 Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. Boulevard), as well as more modest types of multi-family housing. Those who relocated from downtown included recent immigrants from Great Britain and Germany."


nyc-architecture.com

Many a community has started out to be one thing and ended up being another. Some because of economics......Harlem ran into a severe recession in the latter part of the 19th century, turning it into a low income, black neighborhood by the early 20th century.

Other new towns were poorly designed by cutting edge architects, urban planners and developers who thought they knew what was best for people......without consulting the people.

Re: Its not a class thing or they would be living in the poorer arrondissements of Paris.

But they are living --and dying-- in Paris intra muros as well:

Detectives believe the fire was started deliberately and people were reportedly seen setting light to letterboxes. Four people have been arrested.


Who started the fires? The French or the Muslims? I suspect the French.

As for Muslims living in the 15th or 16th arrondissements, not in this lifetime. There may be some on la Rive Gauche but I suspect they are far and few between. In fact, that was a common complaint by Muslims when they were interviewed for tv. They never were able to rent an apartment in Paris.