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To: atticus4paws who wrote (2931)4/25/2006 12:16:08 PM
From: Rock_nj  Respond to of 16955
 
My calculations show that the Prius is one of the only hybrids that actually saves money in the long run, and that is especially true with gasoline around $2.90/gallon. It's just a matter of getting the technology out there in the market. Further innovations will come along. Plug-in hybrids will definitely save money as they are much cheaper to operate, especially if we're looking at $5.00/gallon gas in coming years.

Battery technology is slow to improve, but if there is real demand for improvement then other technologies like nanotechnology can be employed to bring down the cost of batteries and improve their ranges.



To: atticus4paws who wrote (2931)4/25/2006 1:05:36 PM
From: deeno  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 16955
 
any Idea what the cost of electicty would be for the plug in option?



To: atticus4paws who wrote (2931)5/30/2006 9:41:21 AM
From: gg cox  Respond to of 16955
 
The last generation of American auto makers was left behind by the Japanese, the present generation of American and other auto makers "might" fall to the coming Chinese electrification of auto industry.

""Rare China post May 30 2006. www.cre.net

Nickel Metal Hydride Power Battery with High Energy and No Pollution from Chunlan Is Put Into Production

(May 30, 2006)

Nickel metal hydride power battery with high energy, strong power and no pollution is put into production in Chunlan Power Sources Ltd. Co, first batch of which has been left production line, and power source management system matching the kind of power battery has been released into market.
It is reported that Chunlan Ltd. is a special enterprise with the highest level of equipments and technique of nickel metal hydride power battery for domestic electrical power use. Its products include various kinds of nickel metal hydride power batteries and their power source management systems for electric vehicles, high speed vehicles, 42V power source for new generation vehicles, new type of power system for military use, automatic direct power source for electricity, new UPS, 10kw-level PEMFC power source, PV solar energy power source, etc.

During initial stage of production, high energy and high power nickel metal hydride batteries with 8¡«500Ah and their control systems are produced mainly through quality guarantee system and environmental control system in Chunlan Ltd. Annual production output will try to reach 600,000kwh the next year in order to realize goal of ten times production spread during ¡°the Eleventh Five-Year ¡± Plan.


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Has the energy density(below), but the life cycle needs work, only 1000 times to Depth of discharge of 80 percent.VRB, not intended for auto industry,so far, has larger footprint,lower energy density,but life cycle over 13,000 times to depth of discharge of 80 percent and only 1 to 1 time charge/discharge ratio.

chunlan.com



To: atticus4paws who wrote (2931)2/16/2008 6:34:12 PM
From: gg cox  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 16955
 
VLNC Prius
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