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Gold/Mining/Energy : Silver prices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: HighProb who wrote (7284)4/28/2006 12:33:59 AM
From: Patrick Slevin  Respond to of 8010
 
I found another, that implies that Silver will be sold off to meet expenses.

First of all, there appears to be the basic problem of only a few people understanding how an ETF works. So let's take care of that right now. Simply put, an ETF is a passive trust. It can only issue or redeem ETF shares upon a tender to or from the fund of so-called "baskets" by the ETF's market makers, who are formally referred to as Authorized Participants. The term basket originated from the basket of stocks making up a stock index, which is what ETFs originally tracked. A silver ETF basket is 50,000 shares initially representing 500,000 ounces of silver. I say initially because over time trust expenses will erode the number of ounces in each basket and therefore in each ETF share.

resourceinvestor.com

The tax implications for U.S. investors are strict. If I read that correctly it's at a 28% rate. Because Silver will be sold on some sort of regular basis the owner of shares will pay some tax each year.

From the same article,

Gains from the silver ETF will be taxed at the "collectibles" rate of 28% vs. the long-term capital gains rate of 15% (or less). This means ETF investors should consider using tax deferred accounts such as IRAs to the extent possible. There are other bothersome tax implications of owning shares in the silver ETF including the fact that the trust must constantly sell silver to pay its expenses, which is treated as a taxable sale at the 28% rate. Meanwhile, trust expenses can only be deducted as miscellaneous itemized deductions subject to a 2% adjusted gross income threshold. While this will be a minor annoyance for many ETF investors, I mention it simply because the complication is not necessarily applicable to the alternative, physical bullion held in your own possession.



To: HighProb who wrote (7284)4/28/2006 12:50:00 AM
From: Patrick Slevin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8010
 
I could not find a reference to costs there, but if the other article is correct then a share of an ETF is an eroding asset.

Over time each share can't match Silver dollar for dollar. The actual worth of a share this morning may be $127.50 (as of the last tick I see) but a year from now it should be less than 10 ounces of Silver on the open market.

I don't know how many troy ounces per share that GLD represents, but by the price of GLD I would guess it was originally 1/10th of an ounce. The price of a share of GLD appears to slightly lag the spot price of Gold if this is so

EDIT

I was looking at the Futures Market for Silver price. Spot is $12.58 so $125.80 a share..