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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (185861)4/28/2006 11:23:09 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Heredity and environment, working together to produce...you. g. Ed

I guess I can call myself fortunate that it has nothing to do with do with inter-species breeding...

Hawk



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (185861)4/30/2006 4:53:04 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
A battle is brewing in Virginia

By George Will /
Syndicated Columnist
Apr 30, 2006

WASHINGTON -- As usual, Jim Webb is spoiling for a fight. As usual, he has found one. He is seeking the Democrats' senatorial nomination in Virginia against the incumbent, George Allen, a presidential aspirant.

Webb, a varsity boxer at Annapolis, was wounded twice as a Marine officer in Vietnam where he earned the Navy Cross, the Silver Star, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Hearts. His six novels include the best written about Vietnam, ``Fields of Fire.'' In 1988 he resigned -- more feistiness -- as President Reagan's secretary of the Navy to protest a reduction of the Navy's force structure. He is a product of the turbulent Scots-Irish diaspora that has given America Kit Carson, two scrappy Jacksons -- Andrew and Stonewall -- Robert E. Lee and Reagan. The title of Webb's history of America's Scots-Irish? ``Born Fighting.''

Now he has picked a fight with a fighter. Allen, a former governor running statewide for the third time, is a terrific political talent. Even if Webb wins the Democratic primary June 13 (his opponent, Harris Miller, is a former lobbyist and longtime Democratic activist), Allen will be heavily favored. But Virginia will have a contest of heavyweights, and Allen will be a better presidential candidate for having gone 12 rounds with Webb.

Webb, who says he was ``pretty much'' a Democrat until President Carter ``pardoned the draft evaders,'' endorsed Allen over Democratic Sen. Chuck Robb in 2000, after supporting Robb -- another Marine veteran of Vietnam -- in 1994. In 1992, Webb supported the presidential campaign of another Vietnam veteran, Nebraska Democrat Sen. Bob Kerrey, who now is national finance chairman of Webb's campaign. Webb says, ``I wouldn't shake John Kerry's hand for 20 years'' because of Kerry's anti-Vietnam activities but ``I voted for him'' in 2004.

``It was Iraq,'' Webb says, ``that convinced me the Republican Party has gone crazy.'' He says: ``I warned them early, they went in precipitously. We need to get out carefully, we do not need to be an occupying force.'' Carefully, but within two years.

Almost seven months before the invasion of Iraq he warned (Washington Post, Sept. 4, 2002) that before moving from ``containment to unilateral war and a long-term occupation of Iraq'' we should remember that the Soviet Union was defeated by patient, intense containment. As for the flippant calls, before the 1991 Gulf War, for taking Baghdad and installing ``a MacArthurian regency'':

``Our occupation forces never set foot inside Japan until the emperor had formally surrendered and prepared Japanese citizens for our arrival. Nor did MacArthur destroy the Japanese government when he took over as proconsul. ... Nor is Japanese culture in any way similar to Iraq's. The Japanese are a homogeneous people. ... The Iraqis are a multiethnic people filled with competing factions who in many cases would view a U.S. occupation as infidels invading the cradle of Islam.''

Long convinced that invading Iraq would ``empower Iran, the long-term threat,'' Webb thinks the administration's neoconservative nation-builders ``are so far to the left they seem to be on the right.'' His challenge will be to harvest financial support, much of it from outside of Virginia, from antiwar liberals, without forfeiting his appeal to Virginia's moderate Democrats and many military families. He is being endorsed by some of the retired generals now denouncing Don Rumsfeld. And he will attract attention if he continues to charge that the Bush administration is ``deliberately miscounting the casualties in Iraq,'' minimizing them by ``counting only those evacuated out of theater.''

Webb says, ``I'm pro-choice, pro-gay rights, pro-Second Amendment.'' Two out of three might not suffice, given that Democratic primary voters -- disproportionately, liberal activists -- often have little tolerance for heterodoxy. And he says, ``I'm not saying what antiwar people want to hear -- 'Get out last Tuesday.'''

Although Webb has concentrated his fire on Allen, Miller attacked Webb until Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and hates primaries, told him to desist. Over the years Webb has made impolitic pronouncements opposing women in combat and warning that some affirmative action had become ``state-sponsored racism.'' Today, Webb endorses affirmative action but not for mere ``diversity'' reasons. He says that as secretary of the Navy he tripled the number of women in ``operational billets'' and that he has been endorsed by the only woman to make it through the Special Operations course.

He campaigns in combat boots given to him by his son, who was a year from graduating from Penn State but now is a Marine lance corporal. He is due in Iraq in September.



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (185861)4/30/2006 5:57:35 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
Generals Trying to Stop New Fiasco
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by Andrew Greeley
Columnist
Published on Friday, April 28, 2006 by the Chicago Sun Times

Many military officers for reason of conscience criticize the political leadership of the armed forces, even after they've retired, on the grounds that the behavior of the leadership is immoral? As Marine Gen. Gregory Newbold said, the "decision to invade Iraq was done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who never had to execute these missions or bury the results." This judgment does not differ from that of George Packer, an early supporter of the war in his extraordinary book, The Assassin's Gate. Two men with different backgrounds and perspectives come to exactly the same judgment and use the same word, "casual."

One may be prepared to agree that the protesting generals should have resigned from the services if they thought that the war was being run by civilian cowboys. But, should they not, like Colin Powell, have maintained a stoic silence about their discontent? One hears two arguments in favor of this position: regard for the morale of the troops and respect for the American tradition of civilian control of the military.

It seems to me that if an officer is convinced his civilian leadership is reckless with his soldiers' lives, then he must resign and speak out. Otherwise he is cooperating in evil and is as much a war criminal as the "casual, swaggering civilian leadership."

The "support our troops" theory is a much weaker one. If "our troops" are in an impossible situation, devised by arrogant, incompetent leadership, the best support is to demand they be removed from the situation into which folly has placed them. Taken literally, ''support our troops'' means the same thing as ''our country, right or wrong.''

The issue becomes not whether it is right to criticize the leadership but whether the criticism is valid. If it is, then there should be a resignation, but of the president instead of the secretary of defense. Another book on the war -- Cobra II by military historians Michael Gordon and Bernard Trainor -- addresses the same issue. Their craft requires a careful and detailed description of the battles, major and minor, of a campaign that future generations of cadets will study in the service academies. Such men have no particular ideological bias. They are diagnosticians whose duty it is to describe what worked and what didn't work.

There can be no doubt after reading the 500 pages of battlefield reconstructions in Cobra II that American soldiers and Marines fought with tenacity and courage and that their noncommissioned officers and lower level commissioned officers were resilient and ingenious, even up to regimental, brigade and divisional commands, as they always have been in American military history. The problems were at the very highest level -- Franks, Sanchez, Bremer, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz.

Gordon and Trainor sum up their work at the beginning: "The Iraq War is a story of hubris and heroism, of high-technology wizardry and cultural ignorance. The bitter insurgency American and British forces confront today was not pre-ordained. There were lost opportunities, military and political, along the way. The commanders and troops who fought the war explained them to us. A journey through the war's hidden history, demonstrates why American and allied forces are still at risk in a war the president declared all but won on May 1, 2003."

The hubris and devotion to high technology and total ignorance of the enemy are not the problems of the officer corps or the troops. They are problems at the very top level of the country, from the president on down. Why have the generals spoken out now? Doubtless because they see the same group that created the mess in Iraq preparing to incite a war against Iran, using the same techniques of stirring up fear and pseudo-patriotism. They actually seem to believe they can carry it off again, despite their failures in Iraq. It is almost as though there is a Karl Rove scenario. As part of the War on Terrorism we begin to create shock and awe in Iran during October. The Republicans are the party of victory and patriotism. We must keep them in power to support our brave troops and our brave president, and to avenge the heroes of 9/11.

As Vice President Dick Cheney is alleged to have argued to the president, "If we don't finish Iran now, no future administration will be able to finish them."

© 2006 The Chicago Sun Times