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To: Elroy who wrote (286297)	5/1/2006 1:55:45 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576619

You seem to be backing off of: "The bottom line is that the poorest person on the globe is as entitled to be in the race as those you want to "protect"." Where we differ is that you are thinking horizontally and I'm thinking vertically. I don't disagree that the laborers in Dubai should make more money... but the roadblock to that is the people who are paying them, not an overpaid US worker. Manual workers contribute to our GDP, they should share in the cash flow. Instead of giving the CEO of XOM a $400+ million retirement package, give him a $10 million retirement package and spread the other $390+ million around to the lower paid workers. re: There is no way that Motorola can assemble cell phones in the US at $10 per hour and compete globally with Nokia if Nokia is assembling their cell phones in Vietnam and paying its Vietnamese workers $5 per day. I wonder how the Japanese and Korean auto companies are opening plants in the US while the Ford's and GM's are moving manufacturing south of the border? John

To: Elroy who wrote (286297)	5/4/2006 6:19:54 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1576619

The alternative (keeping US manufactuing inside the US at ~$20 per hour) would result in the end of not only US manufacturing, but the entire US companies involved. There is no way that Motorola can assemble cell phones in the US at $10 per hour and compete globally with Nokia if Nokia is assembling their cell phones in Vietnam and paying its Vietnamese workers $5 per day. Yup. First the manufacturing went overseas; now call centers are going over to India. Just had a run in with the Indian call center for AMZN. I was calling them after getting no response to my cancellation order I sent AMZN last weekend. After getting the run around that lasted about 25 minutes, I finally got a person who could help me. He took down all the info for the cancellation......my sales order, address, birth date, email address......and then he asked me the number of my credit card. I could not remember the card I used [I had placed the order over a month ago......that was part of the frustration]......plus my wallet was in the car. He insisted that he could do nothing without the card. I asked to speak to his supervisor. She insisted she could do nothing without the card. First, Indian English sucks.......I can understand people for whom English is a second language better than I can understand Indians and Pakistanis. Secondly, this is not the first time I have run into Indian inflexibility. It is very frustrating. I have put in a call to AMZN and now I am required to go a different route. Part of this is AMZN......I will not use them again. The other part is the outsourcing overseas particularly to India. You think its a good thing. I guess it depends on your perspective.