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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (286529)5/3/2006 10:53:37 AM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1574081
 
Democrats are not in power unfortunately. It's Bush who has done nothing about illegal immigration, who supports it, and he had the perfect chance to after 9-11. He also had the perfect chance then to unite the world, unite Americans and push for clean alternative fuels to get us off oil. Not to mention the fact that he could have asked the rich to pay more taxes to stop the hemmoraging of our federal deficits which are now completely out of control and soaring higher and higher.

Bush failed, and Cheney is the grossest of political criminals. Cheney should be dealt with very harshly.

As for illegal immigration from Mexico, we don't have the manpower to do anything about it. Maybe if we brought home 140,000 guys from Iraq we would, but otherwise there's no practical solution, and hasn't been for decades.



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (286529)5/5/2006 7:21:44 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574081
 
Can you point me to some Dems who are for stopping illegal immigration and sending illegals back?

Yes, Clinton did........and what he got for his efforts were complaints from Latino groups and Republicans:

"In OPERATION GATEKEEPER, political geographer Joseph Nevins explores U.S. policy concerning the U.S./Mexican border. Nevins uses the federal government's Operation Gatekeeper policy, inaugurated in 1994, to frame his discussion and analysis of U.S. strategies for establishing and monitoring its border zone with Mexico, with the goal of thwarting illegal migration across the U.S.-Mexico boundary. Operation Gatekeeper mainly targeted the international boundary in California and Arizona, among other things more than doubling both the number of Border Patrol agents in the area (from 4,200 to 9,212) and the Immigration and Naturalization Service appropriations for the southwestern border (from $400 million to $800 million) (p.4). The increased number of agents and higher appropriations for better surveillance technology and other means of monitoring the boundary support Gatekeeper's strategy for preventing migrants from entering the U.S. As Nevins explains, the deterrent strategy of Gatekeeper was a significant departure from the traditional border policy of apprehending and returning migrants who do cross the border.

bsos.umd.edu

"Operation Gatekeeper’s deadly toll

“We must not tolerate illegal immigration,” wrote then-President Bill Clinton in 1996. He boasted, “Since 1992, we have increased our Border Patrol by over 35percent; deployed underground sensors, infrared night scopes, and encrypted radios; built miles of new fences; and installed massive amounts of new lighting.”3



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (286529)5/5/2006 8:59:31 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574081
 
Democrats are for tougher border control. All of them. But we have a serious problem. About 11 million illegal aliens in this country. So how do you propose anyone could ever "send them back"? If you have an idea which is realistic then contact your congressman, because no one has a solution for this, just different priorities.

The GOP priority is to protect the corporate exploiters of cheap Mexican labor. That is why Bush refuses to slow down the illegal immigration. His pals make money off those cheap workers.

The Dem priority is to protect the US workingclass. But so far illegal Mexicans only seem to be doing jobs union members don't want, so they are not as alarmed. Democrats though are definitely for tougher border control and have voted for it.

Right now we have McCain and Kennedy with a compromise which Bush basically agrees with. So if anything gets signed, that will be the bill, and it won't make much difference.

Also, while the Iraq War is going we have no National Guard or kmilitary to put on the border. We can't even protect the Iraqi border. Nor the Canadian border. Nor any border.

Btw: Last time I went to Tijuana I walked back to the US down a tunnel and there wasn't a single border patrol agent there. I could have been anyone. No one even questioned me. That was two years ago with Bush in charge.