So TL,
I just can't comport this trial with the evidence on the ground and in the air of what happened on flight 93.. I just can't figure this out by what has been presented as evidence at the trial..
"Cell phone" calls from the plane at that elevation at that time?.. The tech wasn't there as I understand it...
No real crash site in Pennsylvania.. Just stuff scattered over 8-10 miles.. Not like a plane nose-dived into the ground.. No big scar like supposedly other similar crashes....
What am I missing? things just don't add up.. :(
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Jurors In Moussaoui Trial Hear Dramatic Flight 93 Cockpit Tape
04.13.2006
September 11 hijackers can be heard seizing control of plane.
Zacarias Moussaoui
Photo: Getty Images
Prosecutors in the sentencing trial of convicted September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui wrapped up their case Wednesday by playing jurors the cockpit voice recordings of hijackers seizing control of United Airlines Flight 93. According to The
New York Times, the 31-minute recording — heard in public for the first time — illustrated the sounds of struggle and panic on the flight as hijackers took control of the airplane and struggled with passengers who attempted to save their own lives by fighting back.
The paper reported that the long silences on the tape were broken by the cries of the hijackers at the controls of the plane, passengers trying desperately to break down the cockpit door and the crashing of objects around the cabin. The tape also contained what sounded like the murder of a flight attendant as hijackers took control of the plane. A woman in the cockpit was heard moaning, "Please, please, don't hurt me."
Her voice appears a short time later for the last time, pleading, "I don't want to die, I don't want to die" followed by one of the hijackers saying in Arabic: "Everything is fine. I finished."
At one point, the hijacker pilot, Ziad Jarrah, attempted to calm the passengers by pretending that a more conventional hijacking was taking place and that the plane would be landing somewhere else, according to the Times. "Here's the captain," he said. "I would like to tell you all to remain seated. We have a bomb aboard, and we are going back to the airport, and we have our demands. So, please remain quiet."
By then, some passengers had learned from cell phone calls that other planes had already crashed into the World Trade Center in New York. In one of those conversations, Todd Beamer tells a telephone operator of his plans to overpower the hijackers, encouraging fellow passengers, "Let's roll." The jurors also heard evidence that suggested the passengers knew it was not just a hijacking.
When a friend tried to calm passenger Marion Britton by saying "Don't worry ... They'll probably take you to another country," Britton replied, "Two passengers have had their throats cut."
The recording ends with a three-minute barrage of noise as a passenger thought to be just outside the cockpit door shouts, "In the cockpit! If we don't, we'll die!" Meanwhile, the Times reported that on the other side of the door, two hijackers could be heard deliberating about ending the flight to avoid being overcome by the passengers.
"Is that it? I mean, shall we pull it down?" one asks in Arabic and the reply is, "Yes, put it in it and pull it down." Just moments before the plane goes down, passengers were heard apparently breaking through the cockpit door and fighting with hijackers in an attempt to retake control of the plane, shouting "Go! Go! ... Move! Move!" At that point, the hijackers had turned the plane upside down, spun it downward and begun their final plunge as they repeatedly screamed "Allah is the greatest" in Arabic as the planes went down into a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, at more than 500 miles an hour at 10:03 a.m. All aboard the plane — 33 passengers, five flight attendants, two pilots and the four hijackers — died in the crash.
Along with listening to the audio recordings, jurors watched a map on television monitors that showed the location of the plane at every moment of its descent, including a depiction of how the hijacker pilot tried to disrupt the counterattack by passengers by suddenly rolling the plane in an attempt to throw them off balance. At one point, jurors were told the hijackers considered cutting off the oxygen to the cabin to stop the passenger uprising, according to a Los Angeles Times report.
The first chance to hear the recording recovered from the wreckage of the plane may also be the last opportunity, under the order of the judge in the hearing, who allowed the tape to be heard by jurors who are determining whether Moussaoui should be given the death penalty.
Moussaoui, 37, who was in a Minnesota jail at the time of the terror attacks, smiled at times during the playing of the recording, according to The New York Times, once when a hijacker in the cockpit said in Arabic: "In the name of Allah. I bear witness that there is no other God but Allah." A jury has already decided that the Frenchman of Moroccan heritage, who is the only person in the U.S. to stand trial for the September 11 attacks to date, is eligible for the death penalty after finding him responsible for at least some of the deaths on that day due to lies he told interrogators about what he knew of the plot (see "Moussaoui Jury Approves Death Penalty Option").
The recordings had already been heard by some family members of those who died in the attacks and members of a commission who concluded that the original target was the Capitol or White House. But Judge Leonie M. Brinkema ruled that the tape should not be publicly released, saying that otherwise it would be broadcast repeatedly, which family members of those killed have objected to. A film depicting the deadly struggle on the plane, "United 93," is slated to hit theaters soon and some moviegoers have already raised objections about the trailer.
After airing the tape, prosecutors brought two final witnesses, including the husband of a flight attendant on Flight 93, who said she used her last conversation with him to proclaim her love and ask him to look after their children.
Moussaoui's court-appointed defense lawyers, with whom he does not speak, are expected to begin their efforts to spare him from death Thursday (April 13) by offering two arguments: that he was considered so unreliable and unstable by al Qaeda's leadership that they had no plans to use him in the September 11 plot and that he has purposely exaggerated his role in the plot in a bid for martyrdom, according to The New York Times..
mtv.com
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re:By then, some passengers had learned from cell phone calls that other planes had already crashed into the World Trade Center in New York. In one of those conversations, Todd Beamer tells a telephone operator of his plans to overpower the hijackers, encouraging fellow passengers, "Let's roll." The jurors also heard evidence that suggested the passengers knew it was not just a hijacking.
Now who the hell as passengers had their cell phones on at that ALTITUDE, (30,000') at that time when they wouldn't work anyway... Hell, I still can't get my cell to work in many places from the ground...
Jeesus H Keerist,
Who's fooling who? "What's goin on" ..Please tell me..
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