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To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (738827)5/5/2006 12:02:01 AM
From: pompsander  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
TomBot:

Ken Lay needs you as a character witness. No one else will testify for him. He and his crony thugs cost innocent people millions of dollars in losses. While Kenny Boy was talking up the stock to people for whom he had a fiduciary duty he knew the bottom was out of the tub and the company was sunk.

He will go to prison for decades. Maybe you can write him there and tell him how much you admire him. You will be one of the few correspondents he gets. Maybe President Bush will write him, when out of office.

You are a sad and tired guy. I could sort of understand your adulation for Mr. Bush....but Ken Lay???

Well, let's let the judicial system do its job. You and I can't settle it. Mr. Lay will proclaim his innocence forever, but the facts don't lie.

I knew people who had careers at Enron. They trusted Lay and Skilling. They have lost their pensions, their 401(k)s, and in some cases their futures. They believed Lay....until it was too late.

Tombot, you are a quacking broken record, constantly posting the same old drivel and too full of hero worship to look one inch below the surface of anything that touches GWB or his pals. An apologist for Enron. Who would have thought it.

So, when the verdict comes down, is the jury going to be "stupid" too?



To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (738827)5/5/2006 12:15:52 AM
From: pompsander  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
TomBots new hero: What a guy to look up to:

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If You Believe Ken Lay, He Made a Great Witness: Ann Woolner
May 4 (Bloomberg) -- For evidence that former Enron Chairman Kenneth Lay either lies about or blinds himself to ugly realities, consider what he said to reporters this week after ending his disastrous six days on the witness stand:

``I think today has been a good day for us. I think the last week or so has been a good week for us.''

Was he in the same courtroom where his trial is going on? Didn't he hear his own testimony, or that of the witnesses?

On that last ``good'' day, one of Lay's witnesses, New York lawyer Martin Siegel, testified that Lay had considered suing the then-bankrupt Enron for $60 million in 2003 claiming breach of contract and unmet retirement obligations.

So much for Lay's claim that he loved Enron. So much for feeling the pain of investors and ex-employees, who were seeking compensation from the same pot.

On that same good day in the courtroom, prosecutor John Hueston elicited these words from Lay about Enron's ethics code, which Lay acknowledged violating with a certain, minor investment:

``Rules were important, but you should not be a slave to rules, either.''

By saying that, Lay magnified the significance of a $120,000 commitment he made to a start-up company that did business with Enron. He elevated the investment from something unrelated to his indictment into evidence of an over-arching attitude: the rule- breaking attitude that sank Enron, in oh so many ways.

Breaking the Rules

Conflict of interest rules? If Lay had slavishly followed them, he would have opposed the rules-waiver for Chief Financial Officer Andrew Fastow.

The waiver let Fastow set up and operate partnerships that bought -- or, as it turned out, borrowed -- Enron's more troubled assets, backed largely by Enron stock. Those funds and the obvious conflicts of interest they created helped destroy Enron.

Lay, nonetheless, refused to take responsibility in any real way for Enron's demise. He accepted only generalized blame as head of the company when bad things happened and said he regrets hiring Fastow.

On trial in Houston with former Enron Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Skilling, Lay stands accused of conspiracy and lying about Enron's financial health. He lied to investors, to employees and to rating agencies by saying Enron was doing just fine when it was really falling apart, the indictment charges.

Glad-Handing Personality

The best thing Lay had going for him before he took the stand was his famously pleasing, glad-handing personality. Such sunny optimism could have caused him to diminish the importance of bad news at Enron in his own mind and exaggerate the company's strengths.

If he believed what he was saying to investors and employees and rating agencies, how could it be a lie?

But on the witness stand, his affability gave way to arrogance and an angry insistence that he was right, no matter all evidence to the contrary. (edit Sounds like Tom Watson!)

Even now he says, incredibly, that Enron was a mostly healthy company done in by a few in-house thieves whose schemes were blown out of proportion by a vast conspiracy of short- sellers and journalists.

His problem is that Enron gave the short-sellers and journalists too much material. In one series of questions, Hueston established that news articles Lay had claimed were the product of a ``witch hunt'' in fact were accurate.

Short-Selling

Nor did it help his conspiracy theory to learn that his own son was short-selling Enron stock, as Hueston informed him on another good day.

Still, if Lay hadn't been so hostile and stubborn in his testimony, perhaps he could have convinced at least some jurors that his optimism, and not some sinister attempt to pump up the share price, explained his rosy financial declarations.

Even if prosecutors can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that Lay believed Enron was ailing when he said it was well, they could still win a conviction, depending on how the judge instructs the jury.

U.S. District Judge Sim Lake could tell jurors that, if Lay consciously avoided learning the truth about Enron's finances, deliberately or through negligence, they could still find him guilty of fraud.

If Lay accepted as true only what he wanted to believe and discounted the significance of everything else, he could still be in trouble.

In Lay's world, as he described it to jurors, a $1.2 billion write-down for an accounting error wasn't a big deal, for example. And he didn't believe indications that Enron's balance sheet contained as much as $7 billion in overvalued assets.

Hence he was being truthful, he says, when he told employees on Sept. 26, 2001, that ``the third quarter is looking great'' and ``we're positioned for a very strong fourth quarter.''

As it turned out, Enron's fourth quarter was about as strong as Lay's testimony was good.

Before the quarter was over, Enron was in bankruptcy.