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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (66184)	5/4/2006 1:55:04 PM
From: Rock_nj	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361706

Kerry just does not have the IT factor. He's certainly a very smart and charming guy, but he is not exactly a charismatic person (IT factor). His policy initiatives in 2004 made a lot of sense. His biggest problem really is that he was campaigning to an utterly ignorant electorate that has grown increasingly externally militaristic over the years and does not care about their own country's internal problems. They want George Bush's form of nationalism, not well thought out strategies for solving demestic problems like Kerry was talking about. Kerry just didn't do it for them, so he lost by 3.5 Million votes. People voted for national security, thinking Bush would provide it for them, when the War in Iraq has become a hotbed of terrorism and increased our chances of another terrorist strike and American's lives are far more threatened by mundane internal threats like unsafe highways and medicines than an external military threat.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (66184)	5/4/2006 1:56:56 PM
From: techguerrilla	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361706

Hey Wharf ... Kerry's a good man ... I refuse to dump on the guy. There were a lot of insane factors that went into his failed campaign against the chimp. Basically, at the time, the stupid US electorate had been scared shitless by the chimp and, for some sort of weird reason, liked him. Kerry's aloof. French, you know. Hustles rich women. The chimp, though, simply inherited from papa chimp. I guess that's better. Kerry was undercut by the strategic brilliance of the GOP to get the U.S. Senate to sign onto the Iraqi invasion with H.J. Res. 114. Kerry bought it and, thus, became Bush lite and was really unable to attack the chimp on Iraqi issues, the most important ones to me these days. I insist that the next candidate for this wimpy Democratic Party of mine be a complete and totally outspoken critic of this farce that the chimp is currently orchestrating in Iraq. /john

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (66184)	5/4/2006 3:09:56 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361706

Rove cheated in both elections. On top of that, in 2004 he ran the most outrageously dishonest smear campaign in memory, and the mainstream media (supposedly "liberal" the rightwing claims) treated the smearers as if they were credible sources. In fact, every single claim the Swiftvets made (none of whom actually fought with Kerry, and only a few who'd ever even met him) has been proven either a total fabrication of a gross distortion of fact. There is also the issue of the Diebold machines (their CEO promised to deliver Ohio for Bush and controlled 800,000 votes there) and the fact the exit polls showed Kerry had won not only in Ohio but several other key states. So it is perfectly possible that the election was actually a tie in terms of vote counts, but that Kerry should have won. As we know Gore beat Bush in 2000 as well, and was cheated out of it. Clearly, smear campaigns, paperless voting machines and the other dirty tricks Rove-Bush used should be made illegal. But in the meantime, do not blame Kerry for being smeared, blame the rats who smeared him, all of whom I might add turned out to be funded by extreme rightwing corporate money. It was no grassroots campaign at all. And they did the same thing to McCain in South Carolina in 2000, another war hero who they called "coward, traitor, liar, no hero". Finally, I would add that Kerry did as well as any democrat could have done, and nobody has yet been able to figure out how to combat a major smear campaign which the media reports on, espcially if the charges are 40 years old and almost impossible to prove one way or another.