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To: see clearly now who wrote (186175)	5/5/2006 8:32:09 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

There appears to have been evidence that the information to get the UN on side as well as a compliant congress was cooked and perhaps once again is being cooked!.... Believe me.. there are a LOT of things being "cooked" on ALL SIDES of the political fence. We have an administration that NOW possesses millions of documents from the former Iraqi Regime, many of which detail the operations of Iraqi Intelligence involving operational and logistical support for terror organizations. We have the evidence that Iraq and Al Qai'da had a measure of mutual involvement and interaction with one another, although maintained at a very discreet level. A person I ran across who worked with the Iraq Survey Group (he was in a different location than I was) has accumulated some very interesting stuff.. Here's an item where Iraq's Vice-President Taha Yassin Ramadan: The first is the relation with Taliban. It should be understood that this issue is completely independent from the mediation requested by Hekmatyar to get to an agreement with the Taliban. Developing the relation with Taliban is essential and this development requires meetings to create a common ground of understanding. We already believe that there are no points of disagreement between us and the Taliban because we are both in one trench facing the world’s oppression. But the details of the relation and its management are linked to the facts of the international situation. I find that by simply meeting with you (Fadl Ur Rahman) is a step forward in the relation with Taliban because we know well how much they trust you and what you represent for them. And when you relay our point of view for them they will understand it. For the future we think that we will arrange relations between us, as an intelligence service, and them in a SECRET (translator’s emphasis) way to establish the strong base of this relation. In the meeting (translator’s note: future meeting) and after reviewing the Taliban’s point of view, we would discuss the possibility of us making an effort to stabilize the situation between Taliban and Russia. We could discuss the subject through the intelligence channel. We look forward to security and stability in Afghanistan, the control of the Taliban and the construction of a political system according to the political and ideological choices of the Taliban. We look forward to assure the Russians that Afghanistan does not constitute a threat to Russia. Afghanistan is a country that wants to live in independence and by dialogue it is possible to reach common grounds to finally get to the result hoped for. rayrobison.typepad.com Now the Media and the purveyors of strategic disinformation would have you believe that there was NO WAY that Taliban/Al Qai'da and Iraq would find common cause. They would have you believe that Islamo-Fascists like the Taliban and Saddam's Ba'thist government were sworn ideological enemies.. But there it is Arnold... in black and white.. Iraq and the Taliban are "in the same trench"... Furthermore, more and more evidence is coming to light that Iraq was involved in training terrorists (Arab Fidayin), including suicide bombers.. etc. freerepublic.com 70.169.163.24 Furthermore, in March, 2001, less than 6 months before 9/11, Iraq's Air Force put out a TOP SECRET request for pilots to carry out suicide missions aimed at striking AMERICAN INTERESTS.. freerepublic.com captainsquartersblog.com So here we have some very strong direct evidence that Iraq was recruiting personnel to attack the United States via suicide bombers. Were these volunteers to be part of the 9/11 attacks?.. who knows. But we know they planned to conduct such an attack to the extent they were recruiting pilots to carry it out. So Arnold, I don't know if it will ever make a difference for your situation there. But feel free to print out those link, with the attached Iraqi documents in Arabic and find out for yourself. There must be someone there who speaks/reads Arabic.. Btw, you're probably well aware that Czech intelligence has never rescinded their belief that Muhammad Atta met with a high-level Iraqi Intelligence officer in Prague in April, 2001, right? Apparently they claim that that Al-Ani (the IIS officer) had the scheduled appointment with a "Hamburg Student" written right into his day planner. And Atta's cover to enter the US was as a student from Hamburg.. Hmmm... But what you have to ask yourself is WHY so few people are actually concerned about having all of these documents translated and analyzed?? I know the intelligence agencies haven't wanted to do it because it's not "sexy" and its a drain on their resources. Hawk