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To: ms.smartest.person who wrote (1086)5/17/2006 7:48:03 PM
From: ms.smartest.person  Respond to of 3198
 
Greed and Oil in Latin America

By Lindsay Williams
17 May 2006 at 11:50 AM EDT

JOHANNESBURG (Business Day) -- Recent history proves oil greed often results in bloodshed, civil insurgency and even war. Classic Business Day gets Latin American specialist Carlos Caicedo from political risk consultancy Exclusive Analysis on the line from London to find out what’s happening in South America. Henk Groenewald from Coronation Fund Managers comments on Sasol’s [NYSE:SSL] exposure.

LINDSAY WILLIAMS: When the price of a commodity goes up it becomes more and more jealously guarded by its custodians - with that jealousy comes greed and fear that sometimes leads to conflict. Some say Iraq without the oil wouldn’t the living hell it is today, and those same cynics might also hypothesize that populist left wing president Hugo Chavez of Venezuela might not be the talisman the lefties have craved for decades were it not for that country’s gigantic lake of heavy crude oil, oil’s meteoric rise to fame. Whatever one believes, Hugo Chavez is having a significant influence on the politics of the region. Carlos, the situation with Chavez has come to the fore in the last couple of days with his visit to London - what’s your impression of what he’s doing in Venezuela in terms of the international oil companies?

CARLOS CAICEDO: I think his policies are clearly nationalist policies - he has stated from the beginning that he would prefer state companies having a majority stake in any oil venture in his country. This is not only Chavez’ decision, it was actually set down in their constitution in 2001. What he has been doing recently is applying that constitution - when he says nothing he’s doing is illegal he is right. The only thing is that the constitution was basically written by him and his friends, therefore it’s not difficult for him to ask everybody to meet this constitution, which essentially gives a majority stake to the state-run oil company Petroleos de Venezuela SA (PdVSA) - therefore any foreign investor wanting to go into Venezuela has to accept probably no more than 20% of any venture, and the main operating company will be PdVSA and not any foreign investor.

LINDSAY WILLIAMS: Do you think this will actually discourage investment in the Venezuelan energy industry in future?

CARLOS CAICEDO: I think in the long term yes, but there are two things here - one is these companies have already invested so much money into Venezuela that they can’t cut and run basically. There is apparently at total of $17 billion invested in the Orinoco Belt - so it will be very difficult for you as the chairman of a company to say that it’s not good business and to close down and move to another country after investing billions of dollars there. The only option is to try to accept things as they are at the moment, try to adjust to the new situation, and try to make some profits that will not be as large as was expected - but at least you are not going to lose your assets.

LINDSAY WILLIAMS: Sure. Do you think the knock-on effect though for the rest of the region is also going to have an impact? In other words for example Bolivia’s re-nationalization plans that were announced about 10 days ago - do you think that’s significant, and do you think other countries could follow?

CARLOS CAICEDO: I think Chavez is having an impact on Bolivia - in one way basically what Morales is trying to do in Bolivia is a copy of the energy policies that have been applied in Venezuela, the only difference is it’s gas. Oil is easier to handle for Venezuela - Venezuela has enough capital on it’s own to carry on without interference from foreign investors, but that’s not the case in Bolivia. Bolivia eventually will have to negotiate, but what Morales has done is to scare foreign investors by saying what he wants, and to start negotiating from that point. Petrobras [NYSE:PBR] is the main investor in Bolivia - whatever is negotiated between Petrobras Brazil and Morales will be the blueprint for any other foreign company - but I don’t think this is a domino effect. I don’t think it will immediately affect any other country - for example in Peru the Chavez influence has actually been negative for Ollanta Humala, the maverick nationalist leader that claims to be a very close friend of Chavez. That friendship has affected his ratings in the opinion polls - possibly he’s going to lose the election in June. Similarly in Mexico left wing candidate Lopez Obrador (Amlo) has been associated with Chavez - as a result he is lagging in the opinion polls. So Chavez is having an impact in Bolivia, but rather than benefiting the left wingers in Peru and Mexico it’s actually damaging their political prospects.

LINDSAY WILLIAMS: Do you think that this charismatic maverick Chavez - a man who spoke for six hours in his presidential address a few days ago - poses a threat to George W Bush in some way? I know there’s an awful lot of conflict between them.

CARLOS CAICEDO: I think yes, but it’s not as great as many think. I think he will be able to undermine a few governments - he could undermine Ecuador by backing certain politicians - but he’s actually damaging his friend Lula in Brazil more than George Bush. Lula da Silva is in trouble - because he’s too close to Chavez his foreign policy is in total tatters, and people have been criticizing Lula because of this closeness with Chavez. Also in the Caribbean Chavez is having an impact - this could undermine Bush in some ways - and in Central America it’s touch and go. He’s trying to use oil as a diplomatic tool, but I think the U.S. is very well established in Central America, and that could counter Chavez. I think it could be partially damaging for Bush, but its not going to be totally chaotic for U.S. influence in Latin America.

LINDSAY WILLIAMS: Henk, the Sasol situation is an interesting one - it’s got this incredible technology, but in general terms is it exposed to third world countries like Bolivia and Venezuela that are now starting to impose punitive sanctions on the international oil companies?

HENK GROENEWALD: No, Sasol is not really exposed to South America - that’s where we’re seeing that regional political move to the left, which ends up in nationalization of the assets - but Sasol does have assets in high-risk countries. It’s got a chemical project in Iran which obviously is very much in the news now due to the political situation, and it’s also got a project in Nigeria - which is also not the most stable country - but it’s not really exposed to the South American situation at the moment.

LINDSAY WILLIAMS: If you looked at its geographical footprint would you say it’s less exposed than for example some of the U.S. oil majors?

HENK GROENEWALD: To South America, yes. I think with all these companies you’ve got to look at their portfolio of assets - the South American assets is where we’re seeing the nationalization happening, which is obviously the worst case outcome for an investor.

LINDSAY WILLIAMS: If you were an international fund manager and you looked at Sasol - would that be a factor in determining whether you invested in the company? I’m just trying to second guess investors that might not have seen Sasol as an option until situations like Bolivia arose a couple of weeks ago.

HENK GROENEWALD: I’m not sure. I think it’s a difficult conclusion to make. I think the one thing that very much counts in Sasol’s favour - if you compare it to an international oil company, what Sasol doesn’t have to do is replace reserves every year. They’ve got about ten years of production life - so every year they’ve got to find whatever they’ve produced again in the same amount, and that means they have to go to more risky regions in the world. They have to explore different regions, and they’re forced into more risky regions - this is not really something they can avoid, they’ve got to go where the resources are. If you look at Sasol they’ve got about 30 years of reserves in the Secunda coal assets - so they don’t have exactly the same problem, and they’re not forced to go into the risky regions. I think that makes them probably a slightly less risky proposition.

LINDSAY WILLIAMS: Also, they can of course export their technology throughout the world - is it in demand, are people knocking on Sasol’s door?

HENK GROENEWALD: Very much. Two things are driving it - firstly the high oil prices, and secondly for the coal-to-liquids (CTL) technology energy security is a big issue for countries like America and China that don’t really want to be dependent on Middle Eastern oil for their energy needs - so people are knocking at Sasol’s door. We’re seeing them in discussions with the Americans and the Chinese, and definitely sometime in the future - although it may still be a long way off - that technology is going to be exported to the rest of the world.

LINDSAY WILLIAMS: Is it price sensitive? Is there any price at which that technology becomes less attractive?

HENK GROENEWALD: Yes, if you look at gas-to-liquids (GTL) technology it can probably work at most oil prices - down to maybe even $25 a barrel, maybe even slightly lower depending on the gas prices - but the CTL technology that’s really attractive for America and China with their big coal reserves needs substantially higher oil prices, probably in the region of $45 to $50 a barrel. It all depends of course on what kind of incentives these countries give Sasol, and how important they think energy security is. So not to be dependant on Middle Eastern oil might be worth their while to give Sasol some kind of floor price protection.

LINDSAY WILLIAMS: Yes, it sounds like a very compelling argument to me. The Sasol share price in the mid R250s in South African rand terms - are you a buyer or seller?

HENK GROENEWALD: I think we’d be a buyer.

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To: ms.smartest.person who wrote (1086)5/17/2006 9:08:28 PM
From: ms.smartest.person  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3198
 
&#8362 David Pescod's Late Edition May 17, 2006

YUKON ZINC (V-YZC) $0.24 -.255
PACIFICA RESOURCES (V-PAX) $0.85 -0.25

Many, many years ago before grey hair, kids and other things,
we were lucky enough to have lived in the Yukon Territory and in
those days the North Country was a great place for having more
than a little fun. It also has such a history of the mining industry
that it’s almost impossible to escape it. But if you have ever lived
in the Yukon, you are aware of one very important fact of life…it’s
a very expensive place to live.

When we see a lot of these potential mining projects being
talked about in the North Country, be it the Northwest Territories
and all its potential for gold and diamonds, or the Yukon with its
history of gold and copper, we wonder if people are aware of just
how expensive it can be up there. You are so far away from the
central services and everything has to be trucked to those locations
involved. It’s a big expense. Now with the global warming
and concern about these roads even being open to the Northwest
Territories, it just adds more expense.

We’ve always suggested that anyone who wanted to invest in a
project way up there, should find out what it costs to fill up a pick
up truck with gas, or what a head of lettuce costs or, what it costs
to catch a flight from Whitehorse to anyplace else.

We never wrote up Yukon Zinc that we can recollect, because
we always thought their project was simply too small in an area of
the world where costs are so high. Canaccord’s Wendell Zerb
echoed that thought today telling us that throughout its history,
he said, “there is one thing that has always come across and that
was how small the project was”. Yukon Zinc came out with their
feasibility study on their Wolverine Property in the Yukon a few
days ago and the results weren’t good. Then the stock was halted
to announce that as bad as those results might have been to
some, that actually, they were worse.

They suggested they made an error in their computation and
because of this error, the real numbers suggested increase in
mining costs from $24.93 to $35.18 per tonne and overall operating
costs per tonne moved from $90.26 to $100.51 per tonne. All
in all it means a cumulative life-of-mine operating costs just got
bounced by $54 million. Ouch!

But that doesn’t mean we escape this whole debacle because
some of the same people involved with Yukon Zinc are involved
with a zinc play we did have some hope for and are speculators in
and that’s Pacifica Resources. The difference between Yukon Zinc
and Pacifica is that Pacifica’s resource is very big—potentially,
eight to 20 times bigger! It’s in a more remote location, but up
there, big counts! Because of the association with some of the
same people, the stock gets hammered as well.

SOUTHWESTERN RES. (T-SWG) $10.50 -0.58
While we have suggested that we are in a correction
and there’s not too many resource stocks or gold stocks
going up these days, there is still one story we have
talked about from time to time that frankly, its chart looks
like a dog! Or worse!

So we go to two of the analysts that have been following
Southwestern Resources and frankly, you’d think that
they would both be a little disappointed. Apparently not.
Wendell Zerb, the Canaccord mining analyst has a $19.40
target and still thinks they are going to get to that level.

Eric Zaunscherb, the mining analyst with Raymond
James on the other hand, has Southwestern as one of his
favorite stories and has a very aggressive $32.00 target.

When we ask Zaunscherb, “Okay, why does the market
care so little?”, he says, “There’s four different factors”.
“Clearly the problems with the Peruvian election
has put a damper on Southwestern”, despite the fact by
his calculations, only 11% of their net asset value is in
Peru.

A second point is the departure of Dan Innes, the well
thought of vice president exploration. Leaving the company
was not a good sign to many people despite the fact
he remains as a consultant to the company.

A third point was their delay in their Liam results in
Peru and concern that Newmont was going to walk away
from the joint venture. Zaunscherb did admit the results
however, were far from barn-burners, but it’s a good sign
that there is 8000 meters of additional drilling now
planned for the Liam project.

As a forth point, but one echoed by many is the company’s
need to improve its investor relations in getting
the story out.

Zerb on the other hand, suggests that while big armwaving
done on the Boka Project in China sometime ago
had people hoping for 10 to 20 million ounces, his suggestion
is that it’s probably not going to happen. They
have a great chance, he suggests of a mine delivering
down the road 200,000 to 300,000 ounces per year for 10
years, but not some of the big numbers some people
were expecting.

He also echoes the problem of the company not being
great at getting news out, despite the fact “they are a
great technical group”. He also echoes the concern of
the political issues in Peru, but also mentions that some
of the results just issued from Peru, were mediocre at
best.

In the meantime, the stock is coming down with the
rest of the market.

But it’s the size of the project where the two analysts
differ as Zaunscherb still has huge hopes for the Boka
project suggesting that their first 67 holes probably
proved up five million ounces and with four drilling rigs
currently working on Boka 7, he would not be surprised at
all if the project did eventually get to 15 million ounces
between Boka 1 and Boka 7.

Same project, different analysts, different viewpoints
and we hope one of them is right. If either one is right,
that would mean a higher stock price for this story down
the road.

But okay guys, what about this market we are in right
now...And once again, they disagree. Zerb wouldn’t be
surprised to see gold drift as low as $610 to $630 and suggests
there is a couple of weeks of correction and then
stabilization to be done. Zaunscherb suggests that after
this hard hit, the correction is “frankly, pretty well done”.

Okay guys, if you could only be looking at one story
here in the next day or two, which one would your eyes be
on? Zaunscherb suggests Stornoway Diamonds, which has
had a decent run of late, because they are working on
seven different projects and news and results should be in
on several of them.

Zerb is looking forward to drilling results out on International
Barytex Resources, run by mining legend Dr. Roman
Shklanka and results from the Democratic Republic of the
Congo, which has had a handful of surprisingly good mining
stocks over the last year, wondering if they also can
have some good numbers.

Disclosure: Southwestern Resources and Stornoway Diamond Corp. Canaccord Capital covers these stocks and has a Speculative Buy rating
on them. (Speculative buy: Stocks bear significantly higher risk that typically cannot be valued by normal fundamental criteria. Investments in
the stock may result in material loss.)
Canaccord has recently participated in a financing for Pacifica Resources and Stornoway Diamond Corp.


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