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To: PartyTime who wrote (66200)5/18/2006 12:12:02 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 173976
 
This is so typical of smear, sneer & slander lib politicians. They have to blatantly lie & intentionally deceive when they falsely attempt to discredit conservatives. And they regularaly commit acts of treachery in the process.

    [U]p until last week Conyers' own web site encouraged 
visitors to demand investigations into the Bush
administration and to "Make Recommendations Regarding
Grounds for Possible Impeachment if Warranted".

What, Me Impeach?

By Captain Ed on National Politics
Captain's Quarters

Congressman John Conyers redefines disingenuity in today's Washington Post by proclaiming Republicans dishonest when they say that he wants to impeach the President. All he wants, he says, is some answers from the Bush administration:

<<< As Republicans have become increasingly nervous about whether they will be able to maintain control of the House in the midterm elections, they have resorted to the straw-man strategy of identifying a parade of horrors to come if Democrats gain the majority. Among these is the assertion that I, as the new chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, would immediately begin impeachment proceedings against President Bush.

I will not do that. I readily admit that I have been quite vigorous, if not relentless, in questioning the administration. The allegations I have raised are grave, serious, well known, and based on reliable media reports and the accounts of former administration officials. ...

So, rather than seeking impeachment, I have chosen to propose comprehensive oversight of these alleged abuses. The oversight I have suggested would be performed by a select committee made up equally of Democrats and Republicans and chosen by the House speaker and the minority leader.

The committee's job would be to obtain answers -- finally. At the end of the process, if -- and only if -- the select committee, acting on a bipartisan basis, finds evidence of potentially impeachable offenses, it would forward that information to the Judiciary Committee. This threshold of bipartisanship is appropriate, I believe, when dealing with an issue of this magnitude. >>>


Apparently Nancy Pelosi has tasked Conyers with the unenviable mission of unringing a bell, and Conyers has no compunction against painting Republicans as paranoid by telling people he really isn't out to get Bush. However, Conyers has a track record he can't hide -- although he's attempted to do so, as you'll see -- and that track record shows that Conyers lied in his article today.

For instance, eleven months ago Conyers chaired a committee hearing in the Capitol basement. This panel comprised House democrats who opposed the Bush administration and supposedly wanted to get some answers, too. However, as Dana Milbank noted at the time for the Washington Post -- the same paper in which we find Conyers' column today -- that the panel only heard witnesses espousing one particular point of view:


<<< In the Capitol basement yesterday, long-suffering House Democrats took a trip to the land of make-believe.

They pretended a small conference room was the Judiciary Committee hearing room, draping white linens over folding tables to make them look like witness tables and bringing in cardboard name tags and extra flags to make the whole thing look official.

Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) banged a large wooden gavel and got the other lawmakers to call him "Mr. Chairman." He liked that so much that he started calling himself "the chairman" and spouted other chairmanly phrases, such as "unanimous consent" and "without objection so ordered." The dress-up game looked realistic enough on C-SPAN, so two dozen more Democrats came downstairs to play along.

The session was a mock impeachment inquiry over the Iraq war
. As luck would have it, all four of the witnesses agreed that President Bush lied to the nation and was guilty of high crimes -- and that a British memo on "fixed" intelligence that surfaced last month was the smoking gun equivalent to the Watergate tapes. Conyers was having so much fun that he ignored aides' entreaties to end the session. >>>


One witness at this debacle turned out to be Ray McGovern, who showed up and starting talking about Jewish conspiracies to hand control of the Middle East to Israel. This inspired the rally outside of the Capitol supporting Conyers' impeachment "hearing" to pass out flyers explaining how Israel had prior warning of 9/11 and warned Jews not to go to work that morning. They also outshone the SEC by revealing Jewish plots to short specific stocks on 9/11 to maximize their profit from the terrorist attacks. McGovern, you may recall, is the darling of the Left that harangued Rumsfeld about being a liar in a recent town-hall style meeting, but that's another story altogether.

Even with this through-the-looking-glass moment on his record, Conyers wants us to believe that he has no intention of pursuing impeachment and that the meanie Republicans are smearing him. However, up until last week Conyers' own web site encouraged visitors to demand investigations into the Bush administration and to "Make Recommendations Regarding Grounds for Possible Impeachment if Warranted". Since May 13th -- just five days ago -- this appears to have been altered. This page shows Conyers' current plea, which asks visitors to sign a pledge only for investigations into abuses of power. This Google cache, which I've copied to my own site to ensure its retention, shows Conyers' aim for impeachment.

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captainsquartersblog.com
72.14.203.104

Conyers is a liar, and not a very good liar at that. He has tried for at least a year to get Democrats to start impeachment proceedings, losing patience to the point where he just held them himself in frustration. As Milbank reported at the time, the only thing Conyers lacked was subpoena power. "'Tis the beginning of our work," he told the Democrats on his ersatz impeachment panel back then. Suddenly faced with accountability in the upcoming elections, Conyers wants to pull wool over the eyes of the electorate by erasing evidence and accusing Republicans of paranoia. Get used to this level of deceit and chutzpah if the Democrats take Congress this fall.

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To: PartyTime who wrote (66200)5/18/2006 1:46:19 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 173976
 
Murtha is a despicable low life leftist slime.
    For a Congressman -- especially one who is a former 
Marine -- to make a flat declaration of guilt not only
before a court martial, but before the issuance of formal
charges against anybody, is amazing, appalling and
despicable.
http://www.irishpennants.com/archives/2006/05/i_wish_it_were.php

The Dishonorable Murtha

Posted by Curt
Flopping Aces
May 17, 2006

Murtha has no honor left, no dignity, and will never be considered as a Marine except by his liberal buddies who would hate him for wearing that uniform in the first place. While an investigation is ongoing he comes out and proclaims the Marines guilty.


<<< Rep. John Murtha, an influential Pennsylvania lawmaker and outspoken critic of the war in Iraq, said today Marines had “killed innocent civilians in cold blood” after allegedly responding to a roadside bomb ambush that killed a Marine during a patrol in Haditha, Iraq, Nov. 19.

The incident is still under investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service and Multi-National Forces Iraq.

The Marine Corps originally claimed that a convoy from the Camp Pendleton, Calif.-based Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines, hit a roadside bomb that killed Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas, 20, of El Paso, Texas, and the ensuing firefight killed 15 Iraqi civilians — casualties the Corps at first claimed were killed in the bomb blast — including seven women and three children.

A March 27 Time magazine report published claims by an Iraqi civil rights group that the Marines barged into houses near the bomb strike, throwing grenades and shooting civilians as they cowered in fear. The report prompted calls for a Pentagon probe.

“It’s much worse than was reported in Time magazine,” Murtha, a Democrat, former Marine colonel and Vietnam war veteran, told reporters on Capitol Hill.

“There was no firefight. There was no [bomb] that killed those innocent people,” Murtha explained, adding there were “about twice as many” Iraqis killed than Time had reported.

No official investigation report has been released by the Pentagon and a spokesman for Murtha was unable to add to the congressman’s remarks.

“I do not know where Rep. Murtha is obtaining is information,” said Lt. Col. Sean Gibson, a spokesman for Marine Corps Forces Central Command in Tampa, Fla. “Thoroughness will drive the investigation.” >>>


Now if these Marines did in fact murder these innocent people then they should all be hung and quartered. They have dishonored my Marine Corps and there should be no greater punishment. BUT…..I will not proclaim them guilty before proven innocent. For Murtha, a man who has been out of the spotlight for sometime to come out of the shadows and villify my Marines is unconscionable.

Why is he doing this? For publicity or to shrilly cry his hatred of this war:


<<< Murtha said combat stress prompted the Marines’ alleged rampage.

“It’s a very serious incident, unfortunately. It shows the tremendous pressure that these guys are under every day when they’re out in combat,” he said. “One man was killed with an [improvised explosive device] and after that they actually went into the houses and killed women and children.” >>>


Yup, this “damn war” has caused some good kids to go bad, all because of Bush. You just KNOW this is coming. His attempts to make another Abu Gharib are pathetic.

Recall the last incident where the libs went all batshit over the Marine shooting a “unarmed” terrorist. Everyone jumped to conclusions and basically said this guy executed him before the facts were in. The same thing is happening here and Murtha has lit the fire.

No one should ever call Murtha a Marine again.

We need to do all we can to support his opponent in the coming election, Diana Irey:


<<< Thirty two years is a long time to spend in Washington. For decades, western Pennsylvania looked to John Murtha to stand up for our values. But as the years have drifted by, John Murtha has drifted further and further from the ideals that made this country great. He has become part of the problem in Washington.

While John Murtha is calling for an immediate withdrawal from the war against terror, Diana Irey has been standing steadfastly by our fighting men and women and is committed to finishing the job. And while John Murtha is voting to tax our social security benefits, Diana Irey has been holding the line on taxes and government spending.

This election is about bringing common sense principles back to Congress. Join the fight! >>>


As far as the incident is concerned, much of it seems to be based on one 9 year old’s version of events. One paragraph of the original Time piece sticks out:


<<< According to Eman, the Marines then entered the living room. “I couldn’t see their faces very well—only their guns sticking into the doorway. I watched them shoot my grandfather, first in the chest and then in the head. Then they killed my granny.” She claims the troops started firing toward the corner of the room where she and her younger brother Abdul Rahman, 8, were hiding; the other adults shielded the children from the bullets but died in the process. Eman says her leg was hit by a piece of metal and Abdul Rahman was shot near his shoulder. “We were lying there, bleeding, and it hurt so much. Afterward, some Iraqi soldiers came. They carried us in their arms. I was crying, shouting ‘Why did you do this to our family?’ And one Iraqi soldier tells me, ‘We didn’t do it. The Americans did. >>>


So let me get this straight? She couldn’t see the faces of the soldiers, and then initially thought the Iraqi soldiers had done it, until told by them that it was the Americans. Hmmmmm.

It smells. For a WHOLE platoon to snap would mean 15 individual Marines would have needed to be involved.

But unlike Murtha I will not jump to conclusions and attempt to proclaim anyone innocent or guilty.

Someday this POS will be facing Chesty Puller one on one, I wish we could all have ringside seats for that one.

Here is he is on Chrissy the Sissy’s show.
newsbusters.org

Here is the original Time story.
time.com

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irey.com