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To: Webster Groves who wrote (51453)5/18/2006 10:03:04 AM
From: sciAticA errAticA  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 116555
 
re: If you think WT7 deserved to go

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... I'm a registered architect, with a backgound in structures, and I specifically studied the structural design of WTTs 1&2, as well, in graduate school...

... the proposition that the planes brought 1&2 down, in the fashion that they collapsed, is pure fantasy.

Ironically, the truly massive, central core steel, built-up box columns sheared evenly at each floor - at their very strongest point (at the welds, which are stronger than the column material) where the moment and bending/rotational loads on the columns were the very weakest. Further, these column sections were somehow propelled hundreds of feet horizontally from the core location, and these even section projectiles can be spotted shooting outward in the collapse videos. If there had been bending/rotational forces, they would have deflected and distorted the sections markedly prior to shear loads ever clipping the columns into pieces. This column section distortion process would have taken time, at each successive floor, requiring a longer collapse time than the one recorded -- which was very nearly at freefall speed.

Keep in mind that for axial loads, this core column grid was remarkably, remarkably, redundantly strong. The outside walls, which were structural and can be perceived conceptually as a cylinder, was designed to resist horizontal, torsional, rotational, bending loads at the most efficient location - the building's perimeter.

The collapse occured in axial fashion -- straight down -- there were minimal bending/rotational forces -- if there were substantial bending/rotational forces present, the buildings would have fallen eccentrically, not directly down. The grid of core columns should have remained standing -- even if all of the light gauge steel floor truss clips had somehow failed, with successive floors pancaking down...

... regarding WTC7, there is no rational reason that it collapsed, aside from controlled demolition.



To: Webster Groves who wrote (51453)5/18/2006 11:59:46 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
"deserved to go"

Ummm...we're talking about a building here...