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To: tejek who wrote (288582)	5/19/2006 4:06:05 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573683

Re: In Europe, languages don't offset each other, they add up... For that matter, I don't think Latinos want to "change" the US official language, they merely want to keep Spanish in their day-to-day business --in addition to English. Huh? They rewrote the American national anthem in Spanish. That suggests a desire to make other conversions into Spanish. ADDITIONS!!! ...a desire to make other ADDITIONS into Spanish. Time for you gringos to take a leaf out of Belgium's multilingual book: The Brabançonne From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Brabançonne (The Song of Brabant) is the national anthem of Belgium. The anthem has both a Dutch and a French version, for the two major languages of the country. Contents [hide] 1 History 2 Trivia 3 Lyrics 3.1 Official Dutch-language text 3.2 Official French-language text 3.3 Official German-language text 3.4 Unofficial translation of the French lyrics 3.5 Unofficial translation of the Dutch lyrics 4 External links History According to legend, the Belgian national anthem was written in September 1830 by a young revolutionary called Jenneval, who read the lyrics during a meeting at the Aigle d'Or café. Jenneval, whose real name was Alexandre Dechet (sometimes known as Louis-Alexandre Dechet), did in fact write the Brabançonne. He was at the time an actor at the theatre where, in August 1830, the revolution started which led to independence from the Netherlands. Jenneval died in the war of independence. François Van Campenhout composed the accompanying score and it was first performed in September 1830. In 1860, Belgium formally adopted the song and music as its national anthem, although the prime minister at the time edited lyrics attacking the Dutch Prince of Orange. Trivia The Brabançonne is not only the name of the Belgian national anthem, it is also a monument on the Surlet de Chokiersquare in Brussels. The monument contains the partial lyrics of both the French and Dutch version of the anthem. Lyrics Official Dutch-language text O dierbaar België, O heilig land der Vad'ren, Onze ziel en ons hart zijn u gewijdt. Aanvaard ons kracht en bloed van ons ad'ren, Wees ons doel in arbeid en in strijd. Bloei, o land, in eendracht niet te breken; Wees immer u zelf en ongeknecht, Het woord getrouw, dat ge onbevreesd moogt spreken, Voor Vorst, voor Vrijheid en voor Recht. (3x) *Official French-language text* O Belgique, ô mère chérie, À toi nos coeurs, à toi nos bras, À toi notre sang, ô Patrie! Nous le jurons tous: tu vivras! Tu vivras toujours grande et belle Et ton invincible unité Aura pour devise immortelle: Le Roi, la Loi, la Liberté! (3x) *Official German-language text* O liebes Land, o Belgiens Erde dir unser Herz, dir unsere Hand dir unser Blut, dem Heimatherde wir schwören's dir, o Vaterland So blühe froh in voller Schöne zu der die Freiheit dich erzog und fortan singen deine Söhne: Gesetz und König und die Freiheit hoch! *Unofficial translation of the French lyrics* O Belgium, O beloved mother, Thine our hearts, thine our arms, Thine our blood, o Fatherland! We all swear it: thou shalt live! Thou shalt live, ever great and beautiful And thy invincible unity Shall have for everlasting motto: The King, the Law, and Liberty! *Unofficial translation of the Dutch lyrics* O beloved Belgium, O holy land of our Fathers Our souls and hearts to thee are consecrated. Accept our strength and the blood of our veins, Be our purpose in work and struggle. Prosper, O country, in harmony unbreakable; Be forever thyself and never servile, True to the word that thou shouldst fearlessly declare: For King, for Freedom, and for Justice. en.wikipedia.org

To: tejek who wrote (288582)	5/19/2006 4:25:47 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573683

Re: Poles moving into Belgium....want the official Belgian language to be Polish.........your reaction. Well, American, British and Japanese "expats" have also moved into Belgium and the consequence is that English has become a de facto official language of corporate Belgium... Belgian politicians too feel they must know a modicum of English --just remember the "Francorchamps Formula One Grand Prix" affair that led Walloon (French-speaking) politicians to travel to London to renegotiate a contract (in English) with Bernie Ecclestone....() As for Poles demanding that Polish be an official language in Belgium, I believe it quite unlikely. All EU citizens perfectly realize that the EU's 15 languages can't be spoken and written by all the EU peoples. Hence it will always be up to the newcomers to adapt and learn the local language to deal in official matters, at least. When it comes to private or commercial matters, however, people everywhere in Europe can use their native languages --satellite TV-channels, restaurants, advertising, religion (Brussels' Poles have their own church and masses in Polish), etc. Gus () Wallonia fails in bid to host Grand Prix in 2006 20 January 2006 BRUSSELS — There will be no Francorchamps Grand Prix staged in 2006, Movement Reform MR leader Serge Kubla told the Wallonian Parliament on Friday. The Liberal leader's statement confirmed reports on French-language radio station Bel-RTL that there would be no Grand Prix this year, known as the Great Prize of Francorchamps, newspaper 'De Standaard' reported. The former economy minister — who had worked tirelessly in his former position to bring the Grand Prix back to Wallonia — based his statement on information provided by sources close to Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone. Talks are still being held between Ecclestone's group and the two Wallonian delegates, Libert Froidmont, the government representative for the Wallonian participation firm Sogepa and Yves Bacquelaine, the head of the Francorchamps circuit's promotion company. These talks are focused on various problems such as investment needed to refurbish the Francorchamps-Spa race circuit to bring it into line with modern standards. Another problem is that 19 races are planned instead of the desired 17. In the meantime, the clock is ticking and it is now almost impossible for the refurbishment to be carried out before the summer, Kubla said. It means the race will not be staged this year. Other sources have also raised the alarm, such as the chairman of the inter-municipal company operating the circuit, Jean-Marie Happart. Kubla pointed an accusing finger at the Wallonian government, claiming it had acted too slowly and should have responded to problems at the start of last year when financial problems around the race first appeared. "Instead, it has politicised the dossier to the extreme. They dramatised affairs and started negotiations again to draw up a new contract despite the fact that was not the problem," he said. "I was a target of all their attacks because they did not want to reveal the differences they had worked themselves into. The [Socialist] PS was a prisoner of its own discourse: no public money for the Great Prize, while the [humanist] CDH repeated: 'A Large Prize for a small price'." The Belgian Grand Prix has been at the centre of controversy in recent months as the Wallonian government tried to renegotiate a much-criticised contract aimed at keeping the race in Francorchamps. In October 2003, the race circuit's promotion company, a government authority, signed the controversial contract with Ecclestone. It committed the government to paying EUR 14-17 million each year until 2010 to host the race. But the Wallonian government's financial backing of the Grand Prix is under fire at a time when the region's economy is stagnating. This is in contrast to initial hopes the race would help boost the region's economy. [Copyright Expatica News 2006] expatica.com

To: tejek who wrote (288582)	5/19/2006 4:46:47 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573683

Footnote to my previous post: Nevertheless, the contact was signed on 31st October by Mr Jean-Marie Happart, Walloon socialist politician, who was representing a non profit organisation set up by the Walloon government. In his defence Mr Happart claims not to have read some of the contract as it was written in English. Daerden's memo is an embarrassment to all the members of the former Walloon government. Each of them, including Daerden, had earlier told journalist that they had no knowledge of the detrimental clause contained in the contract. [...] vrtnieuws.net Can you imagine a similar imbroglio happening in Texas? Some local Texas pol complaining about a multimillion-$ contract written in French?