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To: Suma who wrote (19291)5/21/2006 9:13:04 AM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541345
 
Since there is no real consensus on what to do about immigration, we will slap together a mishmash of measures that please no one 100% and offend many. The basic problem of millions of undocumented workers living and working and reproducing in our society will continue unchecked.

Like the war on drugs, we engage in an expensive process, claim some success and look the other way at the annual reviews that point out our utter lack of progress in actually reaching our objective.

Debating the virtues of perfect sovereignty and an undiluted will to stamp out all illegals is all well and good in the parlor. Doesn't mean diddly in the real world, IMHO, where the US, most of Europe and even South Africa face huge problems with illegal immigrants living and working in their societies today.

Politics is the art of the possible.



To: Suma who wrote (19291)5/21/2006 12:55:10 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 541345
 
Wait a minute- I don't have a position, except that I think we should determine what is in our economic interest, and what we can feasibly do about the problem. I think we should be fully informed about what the choices on this issue will do to us, wrt expenses and impact on our economy. I'm not sure I think that's a "position". Calling for further study is a stage on the way to a position, it is not (imo) a position of its own.