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To: jttmab who wrote (187088)	5/23/2006 8:43:01 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I think that being the guarantor is a bit much. I'd be happy with supporting democratic governments. If you note, I stated that we should be the guarantor of the democratic governmental SYSTEM, not a particular non-democratic political entity that manages to hijack that system in order to demolish it. Thus, with regard to Hamas and Palestine, my view is that we should willing to guarantee that a non-democratic party, such as Hamas, is UNABLE to demolish the democratic system that is evolving there. Hamas should be required to support, sustain, and advance, the system that granted them entree to power. If not, then our interests lie in protecting the system, not some intolerant and repressive non-democratic organization. Btw, my view on this extends to Israel. If some reactionary, non-democratic fundamentalist group of Rabbis or ultra-militant Jews rose to power there, I would suggest we do what is necessary to protect the democratic system. Hawk

To: jttmab who wrote (187088)	5/23/2006 12:53:24 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

I'd be happy with supporting democratic governments. Which is why I would accept the Hamas government. We have accepted it. We do not contest the result of the election. All they have to do is declare themselves ready to be a government that upholds the signed agreements of the previous government. They won't do it. ...and here's the catch. Hamas still wants all the money, having confused the verb "accept" with "fund". The PA is a welfare squat, paid for mostly by the US and Europe, through the UN, NGOs, and direct aid. They haven't got an economy besides collecting welfare checks. That's how come they can afford to do perpetual jihad against Israel.