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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TopCat who wrote (2499)5/26/2006 1:41:18 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224706
 
Libby said he was instructed to leak Plame's name. That means Cheney, his boss. No one else had the authority to instruct Libby to do anything. So Cheney has committed treason and he's hiding behind executive privilege to do so. Do you agree VP's can commit treason and not be held accountable?

Cheney's company Halliburton is in the war-making and oilfield business. Since Cheney was the most vociferous liar and exaggerator about the menace of Saddam and the need to invade, plus his own company had the most to gain financially (over 10 billion in no-bid contracts with no oversight or accounting) then this is clearly a very corrupt situation. It's also an alarming situation where a private company Halliburton becoems literally the boss of the US Army in a battle zone. And are Halliburton's priorities the nation's? Absolutely not. Also, many reports of gouging, skimming, over-charging and other crimes by Halliburton in Iraq and over 10 billion missing from our money over there.

Cheney also clearly lied, covered up and colluded in the massive energy gouging which started the day after he was nominated as VP. At the very least he aided and abbetted Enron and the other massive energy thieves.



To: TopCat who wrote (2499)5/26/2006 3:29:24 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224706
 
"You represent the worst side of partisan politics in the country. Shame on YOU!"

I'm not sure it's intellectually capable of feeling shame. Wouldn't that require it to be self-aware?

;-)



To: TopCat who wrote (2499)5/26/2006 6:39:10 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224706
 
Do you support the Enron thieves just because it wasn't 100% proven they led the robbery of 30 billion from the west coast? That was their biggest crime (carried out with Bush-Cheney at their side), but it was hard to prove intent so the prosecutor went a different direction. Also, Enron had its shredding machines going 24/7 after the company collapsed. In most of these corruption cases clear evidence is hard to come by because it is usually destroyed.

The way they nail white collar crooks is by getting them on perjury or cutting a deal with a subordinate to testify against them. Rarely do they have any rock hard evidence.

But let's be clear. Whether it's taking bribes to award taxpayer money, or bilking investors, or gouging on energy, these white collar crimes are far more damaging to our society than street crime. Street crime may be more dramatic and easy to prove, but the money involved is usually puny. When these corrupt politicians or CEO's sell us out it usually costs us billions. In Bush-CHeney-Enron-Exxon-DElay's vase, hundreds of billions.