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To: Dale Baker who wrote (20125)6/1/2006 2:16:47 PM
From: JohnM  Respond to of 541334
 
Beinart is clearly within the "transformation" paradigm. My guess is that will remain the ruling logic, at least for political purposes, for some time. Because of remaining, lingering fears from 9-11. The debate is likely to be between the Bush doctrine of forceful "transformation" and a more "soft power" version (lots of items under that category, obviously).

But if you look at capabilities and actions as opposed to rhetoric, it seems to me the Bush folk, while talking a big game on Iran, aren't likely to do anything with force. It may happen, however, simply because talk can lead to misunderstandings, which produce outright conflict, without the kind of clear intentions that marked the Bush doctrine on Iraq.

However, I think the rhetoric is more dangerous than the actions. Simply because capabilities are so diminished.

As for a debate about "transformation," I don't see the conditions ripe for such. But I agree with you. It would certainly help clear the political air if it happened.



To: Dale Baker who wrote (20125)6/1/2006 3:01:53 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541334
 
I've mentioned a great book a couple of times that takes on the idea of "transforming everyone to freedom" at least in terms of democracy- it's called "World on Fire". It's a good read.