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To: Ilaine who wrote (168259)	6/1/2006 4:00:57 PM
From: DMaA	Respond to of 793712

Mom-in-law gets it and I read all the cartoons. One my wife is hanging up in her department - Doc in ER talking to crying woman: "I'm very sorry. But I did get in one last lecture on the importance of diet and exercise."

To: Ilaine who wrote (168259)	6/1/2006 4:11:04 PM
From: carranza2	Respond to of 793712

I know you are interested in the way Islam treats women. Even the most "tolerant" brands of Islam, though there isn't supposed to be such a thing a branding within Islam, treat women very poorly. But it isn't necessarily limited to women. Dhimmis, too. Anyone, really, who is "different" and therefore threatening. I was amused to read, however, that Saudi Arabia was either number two or number three in Google's list of nations from which searches for the term "gay sex" originated. All that polygamy, that yet there are apparently tons of male Saudis in the closet? Wassup with that? The most prevalent examples of modern day slavery are found almost exclusively in Muslim places. I must have been dreaming when I read somewhere that under Islam it is OK to punish a woman who has been raped because she has committed adultery. And under Sharia, the testimony of two independent witnesses is required to rstablish rape, that most private of offenses. A woman's testimony is worth one half of a man's. Stupid, crazy stuff, which includes stoning, head hacking, chadors, "martyr" operations, anti-Semitism, female circumcision, any number of things in the cornucopia of the absurd. There is nothing to be tolerant about Islam when it seeks to impose its more insane rules on others. This is where the pluriculturalists have got it all wrong. There are in fact cultures which are better, more enlightened, than others and, by and large, Muslim cultures simply don't qualify. The Orientalists like Lewis have got it just right. And I admire Fallaci because she makes a huge fuss about things, which is exactly what we need. So, yeah, I think Islam's rules are offensive in any number of ways. Women seem to suffer more than most. This lack of tolerance is Islam's fatal weak spot.