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To: dougSF30 who wrote (199933)	6/1/2006 4:59:30 PM
From: AK2004	Respond to of 275872

re: 2.66 GHz Conroe processor will outrun a 2.6 GHz Athlon64 FX-60 by about 20% what happened with conroe been 40%+ faster than FX-60 @ higher frequency?

To: dougSF30 who wrote (199933)	6/1/2006 5:39:53 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: Conroe may consume about as much power as the current Netburst generation, which tops out at more than 130 watts. Interesting news.

To: dougSF30 who wrote (199933)	6/1/2006 6:44:32 PM
From: pgerassi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

Doug: Here is Intel (and your) nightmare: AMD 4x4 allows 1 HTX coprocessor on MB. For benchmarks that test: 1) Linpack, they use 1 vector coprocessor in HTX slot enabling 10-100 times the performance at 3 times the power. Result, Conroe loses big in both performance and perf/watt. 2) Video transcoding, they use a transcoding coprocessor in HTX slot enabling 10 times the frame rate for just 3 times the power. Result Conroe loses big in both performance and perf/watt. 3) SPECint_rate, they use 1 multiDSP coprocessor in HTX slot enabling 10 times the performance for twice the power. Result Conroe loses big again. 4) Simulations and games, they use 1 physics engine coprocessor in HTX slot enabling 10-100 times the performance for 3 times the power. Result, Conroe loses big time. 5) Encryption and compression, they use 1 security accelerator in the HTX slot enabling 10-100 times the performance for twice the power. ... In short, the coprocessor chosen for the buyer's intended purpose alters the performance and perf/watt advantages towards AMD from Conroe in a way that leaves Conroe so far behind that going AMD is a no brainer. Pete BTW: a good tagline for this is "Buy AMD and go fast. If you bought Conroe, you are no go."