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To: one_less who wrote (187970)6/3/2006 1:28:16 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 281500
 
My comment wasn't directed at "neocons" whatever that term is supposed to mean.

Sometimes its a code word for Jewish conservatives. But in a broader sense, it can be applied to former liberals or at least non-conservatives who have become conservatives in the last few decades. That's actually a lot of people. Ronald Reagan himself was a New Deal Democrat in his early years - does that mean he was an early neocon?

Today about 34% of the electorate identify themselves as conservative. Back in the 1940's and 1950's, I'm sure that number was much much smaller. I recall seeing a JFK election banner which said "Vote Liberal" - Kennedy was standing in front of it. No politician today will admit to being liberal, no matter how liberal they are because they recognize the mass movement to the right. Over the '60's, 70's, 80's, vast numbers of people became disenchanted with liberalism and moved to the right (no doubt partly because of the successes, then excesses of liberalism). The word liberal is now a dirty name - even to liberals. They're ashamed and sheepish about their political orientation. On SI there are "liberal ghetto" threads self-described as "moderate" or "centrist" from which you will be banned if you just for use the word liberal. To describe someone liberal is claimed to be a hateful attack.

Now, as to leftwingers or liberals, they clearly are consumed with rage and hatred these days as can be seen on SI posts. They go in for wild conspiracy theories. They claim the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen; Diebold is stealing elections for Republicans - Dean himself claimed this in a speech to the party faithful in NM not long ago to wild cheers (I read about in Atlantic Monthly). Many on the left are now claiming to believe that Bush, not al Qaida, was behind 911 despite Osama's videotaped admissions. Anti-semitism is spreading on the left too. As is violent rhetoric, like the occasional calls for Bush's assassination - which are all claimed to be "jokes" afterward. During the 2004 election, there was a good bit of violent vandalism directed at Republican (none at Democrat that I could ascertain) election offices around the nation. Then there was the guy who tried to run down Katharine Harris and the fellow who recently introduced Chuck Schumer as a man who'd "like to put a bullet between the president's eyes" (see post 20383 on the "I Will Continue ..." thread.)