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To: greenspirit who wrote (168344)	6/2/2006 12:49:10 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793801

It would be equivalent to me having one conversation with a corrupt lawyer who believed in gaming the system at the expense of the law, then portraying my fear that all lawyers are dangerous. Not sure what you mean by "gaming the system," but I have a feeling that you'd be shocked to hear that many things you consider "gaming the system" are actually not only legal, but ethical, as far as lawyers are concerned. Not outright crimes, but taking advantage of every loophole and every strategy and every parsing of the dictionary -- that's our job, like it or don't. Passing off this kind of a conversation and insinuating it represents a broad based attitude is anti-military and demonstrates a lack of experience and knowledge of military personnel. It wasn't intended that way. Not at all. But I do think the man was being honest. Maybe if you were the only person in a rogue outfit you'd be willing to go against the flow, but most people can't tolerate it. If they belong to a group, then they conform to the group.

To: greenspirit who wrote (168344)	6/2/2006 12:53:36 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793801

History tells us that when a group takes power using the military it's in a time of great crisis, not in a time of relative peace. The leader tells the people that they need a strong man, someone who can lead, someone who can make decisions, and the followers follow him. You say you have allegiance to the Constitution but I've seen over and over again that most people have no idea what the Constitution says and don't approve of much of what it does say. As an example, look at how much power Lincoln took during the Civil War. I love Lincoln but it's well accepted that many of his acts were contrary to the spirit and the law of the Constitution. For example, he had no legal right to free the slaves. I am glad he freed the slaves, it was a good thing, but ultra vires (he exceeded his powers).