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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (188099)6/2/2006 8:34:00 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
So much belief, so little to base it on....Saddam was brutal but he wasn't retarded enough to think the world was going to allow him to invade anyone.

I suggest you have look at Saddam's actual career. What made him think he could invade Iran, a country 3 times the size of Iraq? What made him think he could wipe out the Kurds with poison gas? What made him think he could invade Kuwait? What made him kill tens of thousands of Shia?

Were these sober, rational decisions, or were they the product of gambles weighed in one tyrant's brain, using whatever information the yes-men around him dared to give him?

How can you say "so little to base it on" when all I am doing is imagining that he would do AGAIN what he had already done BEFORE?

What is it with this impulse to white-wash a tyrant who modelled his career on Stalin?



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (188099)6/2/2006 10:13:57 PM
From: Sam  Respond to of 281500
 
Ed, it's how she justifies everything--the sanctions were falling, the sanctions were falling, the French and the Russians were so corrupt they were getting bribed by Saddam. Poor noble Americans play be rules and get shafted in this wicked world.

She has made so many predictions that have gone awry, called so many events "tipping points" that would end this once and for all, it's a little silly at this point to argue with her. Though I have to adsmit that, compared with most of the people who went over to LB's thread to rant in a place where serious opposition that gets too articulate gets warned and/or banned, she is one of those that I usually found most tolerable.



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (188099)6/2/2006 10:51:30 PM
From: geode00  Respond to of 281500
 
I heard someone say that if there's regional war (a Cheney/Dubyette dream) oil could go to $300-400/bbl. Democracy? Terrorism? They pale in comparison to the dreams of BigOil and every oil rich country.

They're really starting to get ideas about how high a price the world could bear before some kind of worldwide rebellion started.