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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (76845)	6/4/2006 11:38:24 PM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

The latest poll of Iraqis, asked if Iraq is moving in the right direction, said over 60% 'yes'. Which, considering everything, is quite a testament to where it's coming from. Do you have a link to your poll?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (76845)	6/5/2006 5:02:53 AM
From: RMF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Well, I can assure you that the latest poll doesn't include the almost 2 million middle class Iraqis that have pulled up stakes and moved out. Rather than a poll, those numbers are based on visa applications. If you had the means to get out would you WANT to stay there?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (76845)	6/5/2006 8:48:06 AM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

The latest poll of Iraqis, asked if Iraq is moving in the right direction, said over 60% 'yes' Who conducted the poll? You believe all this propaganda? Why? During his 2004 campaign, Bush said that Americans were not being spied on and that he was aware that he had to obtain a court order to do so. We went home believing him only to discover that he was monitoring the phone calls without a court order. He came out saying that it was within his Presidential powers to do so and that he was eavesdropping on overseas calls only. We went home believing that. And then a few months later we found out that he was also monitoring calls within the country. And not only that but he had built a database of people's calls. So tell me what grounds do we have to believe him when he puts out such sort of stuff in Iraq where 60% say that it is OK for then to be killed in street violence. That it is OK for them to not have a Govt. 6 months after they voted. That it is OK to be picked up by death squads and summarily executed. That it is OK stop a school bus on the streets in Iraq and shoot all the children who are Shia and let the Sunni children go free.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (76845)	6/5/2006 8:25:33 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Nadine, anyone who says Iraq is moving in the right direction is nuts. The country's fallen apart and is sliding to hell in a hand-basket. Every day gets worse and US troops don't know what the hell to do because they're caught in the middle of the bloody mess, but can't tell who's friend or foe until after they're fired on. And even then the enemy is usually uncatchable because they use IED's and longrange potshots. The government of Iraq has almost no control over security either. Which is why nightmares like Haditha happen. This is a textbook quagmire war without direction, without a clear goal and staying there defies any common sense. And the whole problem is based on the pisspoor planning and dishonest, arrogant mis-leadership of the civilians in the White House and Pentagon, especially Cheney, Rumsfield and Bush, but also Wolfowitz and a few others.