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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (7560)6/6/2006 8:40:30 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 14758
 
Show me where the 911 commission says there is a link between Al Quaeda and Saddam

I don't really have to as I've made no claims about the 911 Commission. However, Hawkmoon recently posted something on the FADG thread (#188534) which speaks to the subject:

Bob Kerrey, a former Democratic senator who also served as a 9/11 Commissioner, recently told Eli Lake of the New York Sun that the Iraqi Intelligence documents offer "a very significant set of facts." While cautioning that the documents don't tie Saddam to 9/11, Kerrey added that they do tie Saddam to "a circle that meant to damage the United States."......

.....Bergen ends his piece by reminding us that bin Laden offered to fight against Saddam Hussein's Iraq before the first Gulf War, noting that "months before the Kuwait invasion in 1990 [bin Laden] angrily warned colleagues that Iraq had designs on Persian Gulf states." This is true, and suggests that the on-again, off-again relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda was based on mutual exploitation rather than mutual admiration. But Bergen fails to acknowledge that another captured Iraqi document, this one from 1992 and authenticated by the Defense Intelligence Agency, reveals that the Iraqis considered Osama bin Laden an Iraqi Intelligence asset who had good relations with the Iraqi intelligence station in Damascus, Syria.

findarticles.com

Now, you show me where the 911 Commission denied links between AQ and Saddam. That is what you're insinuating - back it up if you can.

If your sources had any credibility they would have been accepted.

You've been uable to disprove any of the facts I posted. And we all know you would if you could. Who has credibility?



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (7560)6/8/2006 3:52:46 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14758
 
THE NEW YORK POST OF June 17th, 2004

To hear much of the news reporting yesterday, you'd think a national 9/11 Commission report had blown a giant hole in the Bush administra tion's rationale for toppling Saddam Hussein.

The commission did no such thing.

But that didn't stop congressional Democrats — led by presumptive presidential nominee John Kerry — from renewing their charges that the administration "misled America" about Saddam Hussein's ties to Osama bin Laden.

Again, that's not what the report says.

And even if it did, a Saddam-Osama alliance is not why America opened a front in Iraq as part of the War on Terror.

The staff report, released as part of yes terday's final public hearings, says there was no evident connection between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks.

In fact, the Bush administration has never said there was.

The report also says the commission has "no credible evidence that Iraq and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States."

Again, the administration never said there was.

But the report does say that bin Laden actively sought to work with Saddam, through contacts arranged by the Sudanese government.

Indeed, it says, "a senior Iraqi intelligence office reportedly made three visits to Sudan, finally meeting bin Laden in 1994." Further, it says, "contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda also occurred after bin Laden returned to Afghanistan."

The report claims that those contacts "do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship." But that's far from a flat-out "no ties exist."

And, again, the administration has alleged only that Saddam and al Qaeda maintained contacts that were more than casual or inconsequential, none of which is denied in the commission report.

In fact, as Stephen Hayes writes in The Weekly Standard,
the conventional wisdom in Washington long before George W.
Bush took office was that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin
Laden were partners in terrorism.
    Two Clinton-administration stalwarts, Attorney General 
Janet Reno and U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White, brought an
indictment against bin Laden and a deputy, Mohammed Atef,
in 1998 — charging that Saddam and Osama "reached an
understanding . . . that on particular projects,
specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would
work cooperatively with the government of Iraq."
Yes, those allegations were eventually dropped from the indictment. These likely means they couldn't have been proven in a court of law under federal rules of evidence — not necessarily that they were baseless to begin with.

(This underscores the dangers of treating global terrorism
in the age of suitcase nukes as a legal — not a military —
matter, as candidate Kerry proposes.)

Meanwhile, back in 1999, ABC News reported that Saddam had
offered bin Laden asylum, citing their "long relationship"
and a December 1998 meeting in Afghanistan between Osama
and Iraqi intelligence chief Faruq Hijazi.

That same year, the Congressional Research Service reported
that if Saddam Hussein "decide[s] to use terrorists to
attack the continental United States, [he] would likely
turn to bin Laden's al Qaeda," which was then recruiting
"Iraqi chemical weapons experts."

Did everyone mislead America?

If, in fact, the nation was misled, the misleading began
long before George W. Bush entered the White House.

But what if substantive Osama-Saddam ties were for real?
Just because the Kean commission hasn't yet found any
evidence does not mean it doesn't exist.

As recently as Monday, Vice President Dick Cheney said that
Saddam "had long-established ties with al Qaeda" — a
statement his spokesman reiterated again yesterday.

Further details can be found in Richard Miniter's vastly
illuminating column on the opposite page.

In other words, the Kean commission — whose blatantly
partisan Bush-bashing has been manifest from the get-go —
is hardly the final word on the subject.

But the commission report does offer a clear rejoinder to
those like Sen. Bob Graham — a possible Kerry vice
presidential pick — who charge that the war in Iraq somehow
constituted a distraction from the War on Terror.

Many seem to have forgotten that the first U.S. military
action after 9/11 was to invade Afghanistan and destroy its
Taliban government, targeting bin Laden strongholds — and
capturing many of his top aides — in the process.

As a result, the report says, "al Qaeda's funding has
decreased significantly. The arrests or deaths of several
important financial facilitators have decreased the amount
of money al Qaeda has raised and increased the costs and
difficulty or raising and moving that money."

Moreover, though the organization remains dangerous, it
today has "a greatly weakened central organization."

Still, President Bush realized — as John Kerry, the
Democrats and the Kean commission clearly do not — that the
war on terrorism is not just about seeking revenge against
the perpetrators of 9/11.

It's about neutralizing radical Islam's fundamental
challenge to Western civilization — fighting to win a war
that was imposed on the West by evil men in the service of
a depraved ideology.

The path to victory is not clear, but the alternative is
one, two, many 9/11's — each more horrific than its
predecessor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Message 20239310



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (7560)6/8/2006 4:00:25 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14758
 
The "Historical Revisionism" going on forgets items like these.
    "In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the 
Government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against
that government and that on particular projects,
specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda
would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq."
The quote comes from the 1998 indictment usinfo.state.gov. of bin Laden and al Qaeda for the bombings of American embassies in Africa.

As a famous Soviet dissident joke put it:
    "In the Soviet Union, the future is known; it's the past 
which is always changing."
In the 1990s, President Clinton and his administration released numerous bits of intel and information on Bin Ladin and Saddam Hussein to the press. As a result, The New York Times, as well as Newsweek, and NPR each ran stories documenting his ties to Bin Ladin.

Yesterday, the 9/11 commission confirmed those ties, and admonished the press for ignoring them. Was Saddam directly tied to 9/11? President Bush never said he was. But clearly, Iraq and Al Qaeda were quite cozy with each other. Something the press spent the past decade documenting when it benefited one administration, and the past three years chucking down the memory hole when it hindered another.

eddriscoll.com.



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (7560)6/8/2006 4:20:16 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 14758
 
9/11 Commission Report: Iraq

Posted by Jon Henke

While Iraq is certainly not central to the 9/11 Commission Report. I thought it could be interesting to see what they have to say about it.

Holy crap.

While certainly not conclusive evidence of extensive collaboration, the 9/11 report seems to give a great deal of weight to the charges that there were "ties" between Iraq and Al Qaeda. It also rains on the parades of one Mr Clarke, who had claimed Iraq was a diversion, that there was "absolutely no evidence that Iraq was supporting al Qaeda, ever". In fact, it is quite devastating on that point, using Clarke's own words. We'll get to it.

The important Iraq references....

Page 58 - Bin Laden built his Islamic army with groups in various countries, including Iraq.

Bin Ladin now had a vision of himself as head of an international jihad con federation. In Sudan, he established an “Islamic Army Shura” that was to serve as the coordinating body for the consortium of terrorist groups with which he was forging alliances. It was composed of his own al Qaeda Shura together with leaders or representatives of terrorist organizations that were still independent. In building this Islamic army, he enlisted groups from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Oman, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco, Somalia, and Eritrea.

Page 61 - Bin Laden willing to explore a relationship with Iraq.

Bin Ladin was also willing to explore possibilities for cooperation with Iraq, even though Iraq’s dictator, Saddam Hussein, had never had an Islamist agenda—save for his opportunistic pose as a defender of the faithful against “Crusaders” during the Gulf War of 1991. Moreover, Bin Ladin had in fact been sponsoring anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan, and sought to attract them into his Islamic army.

Page 61 - Bin Laden agrees to stop supporting activities against Saddam; Reports indicate Saddam may have supported, or at least tolerated, Ansar al-Islam.

To protect his own ties with Iraq, Turabi reportedly brokered an agreement that Bin Ladin would stop supporting activities against Saddam. Bin Ladin apparently honored this pledge, at least for a time, although he continued to aid a group of Islamist extremists operating in part of Iraq (Kurdistan) outside of Baghdad’s control. In the late 1990s, these extremist groups suffered major defeats by Kurdish forces. In 2001, with Bin Ladin’s help they re-formed into an organization called Ansar al Islam. There are indications that by then the Iraqi regime tolerated and may even have helped Ansar al Islam against the common Kurdish enemy.

Page 61 - Bin Laden met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer, and asked for assistance. No evidence of an Iraqi response. This was not the last attempt.

With the Sudanese regime acting as intermediary, Bin Ladin himself met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or early 1995. Bin Ladin is said to have asked for space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but there is no evidence that Iraq responded to this request.55 As described below, the ensuing years saw additional efforts to establish connections.

Page 66 - Iraq took the initiative to contact Al Qaeda.

In mid-1998, the situation reversed; it was Iraq that reportedly took the initiative. In March 1998, after Bin Ladin’s public fatwa against the United States, two al Qaeda members reportedly went to Iraq to meet with Iraqi intelligence. In July, an Iraqi delegation traveled to Afghanistan to meet first with the Taliban and then with Bin Ladin. Sources reported that one, or perhaps both, of these meetings was apparently arranged through Bin Ladin’s Egyptian deputy, Zawahiri, who had ties of his own to the Iraqis. In 1998, Iraq was under intensifying U.S. pressure, which culminated in a series of large air attacks in December.

Page 125 - Clarke points out that Iraq had discussed hosting Bin Laden.

Clarke commented that Iraq and Libya had previously discussed hosting Bin Ladin, though he and his staff had their doubts that Bin Ladin would trust secular Arab dictators such as Saddam Hussein or Muammar Qadhafi.

Page 128 - Clarke suggests that a chemical factory is probably the result of an Iraq-Al Qaeda agreement. Chemical evidence backs that up.

The original sealed indictment had added that al Qaeda had “reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.” 109 This passage led Clarke, who for years had read intelligence reports on Iraqi-Sudanese cooperation on chemical weapons, to speculate to Berger that a large Iraqi presence at chemical facilities in Khartoum was “probably a direct result of the Iraq–Al Qida agreement.” Clarke added that VX precursor traces found near al Shifa were the “exact formula used by Iraq.” 110 This language about al Qaeda’s “understanding” with Iraq had been dropped, however, when a superseding indictment was filed in November 1998.

Page 134 - Clarke discusses the possibility--even likelihood--that Bin Laden would move to Baghdad, if attacked in Afghanistan, and cooperate with Saddam.

[Clarke] wrote Deputy National Security Advisor Donald Kerrick that one reliable source reported Bin Ladin’s having met with Iraqi officials, who “may have offered him asylum.” Other intelligence sources said that some Taliban leaders, though not Mullah Omar, had urged Bin Ladin to go to Iraq. If Bin Ladin actually moved to Iraq, wrote Clarke, his network would be at Saddam Hussein’s service, and it would be “virtually impossible” to find him. Better to get Bin Ladin in Afghanistan, Clarke declared.134 Berger suggested sending one U-2 flight, but Clarke opposed even this. It would require Pakistani approval, he wrote; and “Pak[istan’s] intel[ligence service] is in bed with” Bin Ladin and would warn him that the United States was getting ready for a bombing campaign: “Armed with that knowledge, old wily Usama will likely boogie to Baghdad.” 135 Though told also by Bruce Riedel of the NSC staff that Saddam Hussein wanted Bin Ladin in Baghdad, Berger conditionally authorized a single U-2 flight.

Page 334 - Clarke's report found anecdotal evidence of an Iraqi link to Al Qaeda, but no compelling case that Iraq was involved in 9/11.

Responding to a presidential tasking, Clarke’s office sent a memo to Rice on September 18, titled “Survey of Intelligence Information on Any Iraq Involvement in the September 11 Attacks.” Rice’s chief staffer on Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, concurred in its conclusion that only some anecdotal evidence linked Iraq to al Qaeda. The memo found no “compelling case” that Iraq had either planned or perpetrated the attacks. It passed along a few foreign intelligence reports, including the Czech report alleging an April 2001 Prague meeting between Atta and an Iraqi intelligence officer (discussed in chapter 7) and a Polish report that personnel at the headquarters of Iraqi intelligence in Baghdad were told before September 11 to go on the streets to gauge crowd reaction to an unspecified event. Arguing that the case for links between Iraq and al Qaeda was weak, the memo pointed out that Bin Ladin resented the secularism of Saddam Hussein’s regime. Finally, the memo said, there was no confirmed reporting on Saddam cooperating with Bin Ladin on unconventional weapons.

Page 335 - The Camp David discussions....

According to Rice, the issue of what, if anything, to do about Iraq was really engaged at Camp David. Briefing papers on Iraq, along with many others, were in briefing materials for the participants. Rice told us the administration was concerned that Iraq would take advantage of the 9/11 attacks. She recalled that in the first Camp David session chaired by the President, Rumsfeld asked what the administration should do about Iraq. Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz made the case for striking Iraq during “this round” of the war on terrorism.

Page 335 - DoD presents the three priorities: al Qaeda, the Taliban, Iraq

A Defense Department paper for the Camp David briefing book on the strategic concept for the war on terrorism specified three priority targets for initial action: al Qaeda, the Taliban, and Iraq. It argued that of the three, al Qaeda and Iraq posed a strategic threat to the United States. Iraq’s long-standing involvement in terrorism was cited, along with its interest in weapons of mass destruction.

Page 335 - Bush did not accept that Iraq was an immediate priority.

Secretary Powell recalled that Wolfowitz—not Rumsfeld—
argued that Iraq was ultimately the source of the
terrorist problem and should therefore be attacked.66
Powell said that Wolfowitz was not able to justify his
belief that Iraq was behind 9/11. “Paul was always of the
view that Iraq was a problem that had to be dealt with,”

Powell told us. “And he saw this as one way of using this
event as a way to deal with the Iraq problem.” Powell said
that President Bush did not give Wolfowitz’s argument
“much weight.”67 Though continuing to worry about Iraq in
the following week, Powell said, President Bush saw
Afghanistan as the priority.

Page 335 - Bush decides Iraq is off the table, barring new information.

President Bush told Bob Woodward that the decision not to invade Iraq was made at the morning session on September 15. Iraq was not even on the table during the September 15 afternoon session, which dealt solely with Afghanistan.69 Rice said that when President Bush called her on Sunday, September 16, he said the focus would be on Afghanistan, although he still wanted plans for Iraq should the country take some action or the administration eventually determine that it had been involved in the 9/11 attacks.

Page 335 - A WoT Phase Two could include Iraq, if necessary.

At the September 17 NSC meeting, there was some further discussion of “phase two” of the war on terrorism.71 President Bush ordered the Defense Department to be ready to deal with Iraq if Baghdad acted against U.S. interests, with plans to include possibly occupying Iraqi oil fields.

Page 335 - Wolfowitz continues to push for Iraq.

Within the Pentagon, Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz continued to press the case for dealing with Iraq. Writing to Rumsfeld on September 17 in a memo headlined “Preventing More Events,” he argued that if there was even a 10 percent chance that Saddam Hussein was behind the 9/11 attack, maximum priority should be placed on eliminating that threat. Wolfowitz contended that the odds were “far more” than 1 in 10, citing Saddam’s praise for the attack, his long record of involvement in terrorism, and theories that Ramzi Yousef was an Iraqi agent and Iraq was behind the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center.73 The next day, Wolfowitz renewed the argument, writing to Rumsfeld about the interest of Yousef ’s co-conspirator in the 1995 Manila air plot in crashing an explosives-laden plane into CIA headquarters, and about information from a foreign government regarding Iraqis’ involvement in the attempted hijacking of a Gulf Air flight. Given this background, he wondered why so little thought had been devoted to the danger of suicide pilots, seeing a “failure of imagination” and a mind-set that dismissed possibilities.

Page 336 - Blair asks about Iraq; Bush tells him Iraq is not the immediate problem.

On September 20, President Bush met with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, and the two leaders discussed the global conflict ahead. When Blair asked about Iraq, the President replied that Iraq was not the immediate problem. Some members of his administration, he commented, had expressed a different view, but he was the one responsible for making the decisions.

Page 336 - CENTCOM/General Franks wanted to plan for possible movement against Iraq. Bush rejected it.

Franks told us that he was pushing independently to do more robust plan ning on military responses in Iraq during the summer before 9/11—a request President Bush denied, arguing that the time was not right. (CENTCOM also began dusting off plans for a full invasion of Iraq during this period, Franks said.) The CENTCOM commander told us he renewed his appeal for further military planning to respond to Iraqi moves shortly after 9/11, both because he personally felt that Iraq and al Qaeda might be engaged in some form of collusion and because he worried that Saddam might take advantage of the attacks to move against his internal enemies in the northern or southern parts of Iraq, where the United States was flying regular missions to enforce Iraqi no-fly zones. Franks said that President Bush again turned down the request.

Page 502 - Iraqi Fedayeen member not involved with 9/11 plot.

We now know that two other al Qaeda operatives flew to Bangkok to meet Khallad to pass him money. See chapter 8. That was not known at the time. Mihdhar was met at the Kuala Lumpur airport by Ahmad Hikmat Shakir, an Iraqi national. Reports that he was a lieutenant colonel in the Iraqi Fedayeen have turned out to be incorrect. They were based on a confusion of Shakir’s identity with that of an Iraqi Fedayeen colonel with a similar name, who was later (in September 2001) in Iraq at the same time Shakir was in police custody in Qatar.

Page 559 - Clarke and Bush dispute versions of post-9/11 meeting. Clarke's secretary claims they did meet, but Bush's manner was not "intimidating".

President Bush told us that Clarke had mischaracterized this exchange. On the evening of September 12, the President was at the Pentagon and then went to the White House residence. He dismissed the idea that he had been wandering around the Situation Room alone, saying, “I don’t do that.” He said that he did not think that any president would roam around looking for something to do. While Clarke said he had found the President’s tone “very intimidating,” (“Clarke’s Take on Terror,” CBSnews.com, Mar. 21, 2004, online at www.cbsnews.com/stories /2004/03/19/60minutes/printable607356.shtml), President Bush doubted that anyone would have found his manner intimidating. President Bush and Vice President Cheney meeting (Apr. 29, 2004), Roger Cressey, Clarke’s deputy, recalls this exchange with the President and Clarke concerning Iraq shortly after 9/11, but did not believe the President’s manner was intimidating.

Page 559 - No credible evidence of Iraqi involvement in 1993 WTC bombing.

qando.net

9/11 Commission Report
9-11commission.gov



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (7560)6/8/2006 4:22:18 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 14758
 
Here's 9/11 Commission Chair Thomas Kean during the press conference for the release of the commission'a final report today:
    There is "no question in our minds that there was a 
relationship between Iraq and al Queda."

Message 20339152



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (7560)6/8/2006 4:52:14 AM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14758
 
You remind me of the Kerry campaign.

No Terrorism in IRAQ Before the War?

Who does John Kerry think he's kidding?

by Stephen F. Hayes
09/16/2004

"There was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war."


--Stephanie Cutter, chief spokesman, John Kerry for President
Los Angeles Times, September 9, 2004


IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, John Kerry's campaign has challenged Bush administration claims of an IRAQ-al QAEDA connection. The effort has been amateurish and confused. Kerry has conflated two separate issues--an IRAQ-September 11 connection (which cannot be proven) and the IRAQ-al QAEDA connection (which has been)--in a lame attempt to accuse the Bush administration of "misleading" America about the IRAQ war.

No one should be surprised at distortions coming from a presidential campaign. (Journalists, however, continue to surprise. Where are the John Kerry versions of the fact-checking articles on Bush that the Associated Press distributes on the wire and that the Washington Post, and the New York Times splash on their front pages?)

On the other hand, on September 7 Kerry said that the soldiers who have died in IRAQ have done so "on behalf of freedom in the war on terror." It was a moment of lucidity the Kerry campaign could not let stand. Kerry spokesman Stephanie Cutter told the Los Angeles Times that the comment should not be misinterpreted as endorsing Bush administration claims of an IRAQ-al QAEDA connection. And then she dropped the stunner at the top of the page:

<< "There was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war. There is now terrorism there now." >>

Really?

Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war."


CIA Analysis, January 2003: IRAQi Support for Terrorism, (p.314 of Senate Intel Report):
    "IRAQ has a long history of supporting terrorism." 

Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war."


CIA Analysis, January 2003--IRAQi Support for Terrorism, (p. 314 of Senate Intel Report):
    "IRAQ continues to be a safehaven, transit point, or 
operational node for groups and individuals who direct
violence against the United States, Israel and other
allies."

Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war."


Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 315):
    "The CIA provided 78 reports, from multiple sources, 
[redacted] documenting instances in which the IRAQi regime
either trained operatives for attacks or dispatched them
to carry out attacks."

Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war."


Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 316):
    "IRAQ continued to participate in terrorist attacks 
throughout the 1990s."

Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war."


Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 316):
    "From 1996 to 2003, the [IRAQi Intelligence Service] 
focused its terrorist activities on western interests,
particularly against the U.S. and Israel."

Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war."


Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 316):
    "Throughout 2002, the [IRAQi Intelligence Service] was 
becoming increasingly aggressive in planning attacks
against U.S. interests. The CIA provided eight reports to
support this assessment."

Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war."


Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 331):
    "Twelve reports received [redacted] from sources that the 
CIA described as having varying reliability, cited IRAQ or
IRAQi national involvement in al QAEDA's [chemical,
biological, nuclear] CBW efforts."

Kerry campaign:

"There was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war."


The 9/11 COMMISSION Report
(p. 66):
    "In March 1998, after bin Laden's public fatwa against the
United States, two al QAEDA members reportedly went to
IRAQ to meet with IRAQ Intelligence. In July, an IRAQi
delegation traveled to Afghanistan to meet first with the
Taliban and then with bin Laden."

A few days ago the Kerry campaign eagerly "clarified" the senator's claim that soldiers in IRAQ had died "on behalf of freedom in the war on terror." Any chance of a another clarification? Does John Kerry really believe that "there was no terrorism in IRAQ before we went to war?"

Stephen F. Hayes is a staff writer at The Weekly Standard and author of The Connection: How al QAEDA's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein has Endangered America (HarperCollins).
weeklystandard.com