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To: Sully- who wrote (20500)	6/8/2006 7:55:20 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

Asked & answered... OK, how many hours will it be before some leftist claims that the Al-Zarqawi news is BS put out there to get Haditha off the front pages? See the last few paragraphs (link below too) Bomb On Head Equals Knife In Back By Captain Ed on War on Terror Captain's Quarters So much for loyalty among terrorists. CNN now reports that the Coalition mission that killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi came as a result of betrayal within the ranks of his own organization. The Pentagon also confirmed that US and Iraqi forces raided a total of 17 sites based on the intelligence gathered for weeks before today: <<< Betrayal inside his al Qaeda in Iraq terror group led to success in a painstaking U.S.-led operation to kill Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the U.S. military said on Thursday. The most wanted man in Iraq died in a U.S. airstrike Wednesday evening when two 500-pound bombs slammed into a safe house near Baquba, according to U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Bill Caldwell. "Last night was the first time that we have had definitive, unquestionable information as to exactly where [al-Zarqawi] was located, knowing that we could strike that target without causing collateral damage to other Iraqi civilians and personnel in the area," Caldwell said. In addition, Iraqi security and coalition forces conducted 17 simultaneous raids in and around Baghdad at the time of the attack, Caldwell said. "A tremendous amount of information and intelligence was collected" from the raids, he said, "and is presently being exploited and utilized for further use. I mean, it was a treasure trove; no question." >>> That explains one of the questions asked by those on the Left, skeptical as to why the Coalition has not acted on previous intelligence to kill Zarqawi. Given his pledge to blow himself up if captured and his propensity to hide among civilians, the Coalition apparently didn't want to risk unnecessary collateral damage when operating on uncertain intelligence. That also explains why they killed rather than capture him. He likely would not have provided much information to interrogators under any circumstances, and the US felt that capturing Zarqawi would not be worth losing men to a suicide blast. If the US felt it would have achieved more cachet by capturing Zarqawi alive, the revelation that Zarqawi went to his demise because his own terrorists betrayed him will stagger al-Qaeda and its wannabes around the world. After spending the last several years arguing that they represent the ummah's greatest defense against the infidel, it seems that some of their number have little compunction about working with Westerners to get rid of a troublesome Muslim in their midst. Especially embarrassing will be the fact that someone in the network ratted out Sheik Abdel Rahman, supposedly a holy man acting as Zarqawi's spiritual advisor. For that reason, the martyrdom of Zarqawi will hardly resonate among the young radicals that al-Qaeda needs for recruitment. They will rightly wonder how supposedly faithful Muslims could turn on each other and still maintain adherence to jihad and Islam. That may provide the first glimmer for some that Islamofascism has much more to do with tyranny than religion, at least in practice. As for the coordinated raids, that shows how long it takes to do an intel-Special Ops mission right. Hitting Zarqawi alone would have dispersed other targets immediately, allowing other important targets to escape for more mischief and terror. While Zarqawi's strength came from his decentralized ability to cause casualties randomly, our strength comes from our ability and resources to plan and execute complex and overpowering missions to defeat asymmetrical threats. Today, we see that our strengths will inevitably provide victory over those of the terrorists. They are outclassed, and the only way they can win is if we give up. Addendum: Hot Air notes the similarity to the three Godfather films, an analogy that occurred to me earlier as well. What occurs to Rep. Pete Stark, D-CA, is that killing our enemies only has value in a : Some Democrats, breaking ranks from their leadership, today said the death of terrorist leader Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq was a stunt to divert attention from an unpopular and hopeless war. “This is just to cover Bush’s [rear] so he doesn’t have to answer” for Iraqi civilians being killed by the U.S. military and his own sagging poll numbers, said Rep. Pete Stark, California Democrat. “Iraq is still a mess — get out.” This gives Americans a clear idea of how Democrats view war strategy, and why they can't be trusted with it. captainsquartersblog.com cnn.com hotair.com washingtontimes.com

To: Sully- who wrote (20500)	6/8/2006 9:58:17 PM
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A Dose of Daily Kos Kathryn Jean Lopez The Corner Some comments (a very selective snapshot) in response to today's Zarqawi news: <<< "Bush's idea of justice is bombs falling out of the sky?" "Why is he dead again just now? I wonder if Karl's getting indicted tomorrow..." "Those pics of Abu Z look like they just thawed him out just in time for the elections." "Zarqawi was quite probably a psy ops job in the first place, so what does that make his "death"? ...Keep your eyes on the prize....Haditha." "Just in time to hide the fact they're trying to cut the estate tax for the uber wealthy" "Yes the timing of Zarqawi's death does seem too good for Bush to be true. It reeks of distraction politics. " >>> corner.nationalreview.com dailykos.com

To: Sully- who wrote (20500)	6/8/2006 10:26:22 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

Democrats call Zarqawi killing a stunt By Amy Fagan THE WASHINGTON TIMES Nation/Politics Page June 8, 2006 4:09 p.m. Some Democrats, breaking ranks from their leadership, today said the death of terrorist leader Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq was a stunt to divert attention from an unpopular and hopeless war. "This is just to cover Bush's [rear] so he doesn't have to answer" for Iraqi civilians being killed by the U.S. military and his own sagging poll numbers, said Rep. Pete Stark, California Democrat. "Iraq is still a mess -- get out." Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, Ohio Democrat, said Zarqawi was a small part of "a growing anti-American insurgency" and that it's time to get out. "We're there for all the wrong reasons," Mr. Kucinich said. Officially, Democratic leaders reacted positively to the news and praised the troops that successfully targeted al Qaeda's leader in Iraq with 500-pound bombs at his safe house 30 miles from Baghdad. "This is a good day for the Iraqi people, the U.S. military and our intelligence community," said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada. President Bush said that yesterday's killing of the 39-year-old Jordanian-born terrorist offers an opportunity to "turn the tide" in the war and that Tuesday he will discuss with Iraqi leaders "how to best deploy America's resources in Iraq." A senior White House official cautioned that Mr. Bush was not hinting at possible early reductions in U.S. troops there, according to Reuters news agency. Meanwhile, Democrats sprinkled caveats throughout their praise. "That is good news; he was a dreadful, vicious person," said Sen. Kent Conrad, North Dakota Democrat. Mr. Conrad added that he hopes the military can get Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri, another top al Qaeda leader. "They're even more important," he said. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Michigan Democrat, said it was good news but added, "I think we have a long way to go." Republicans called Zarqawi's death a positive step and thanked Iraqi citizens for standing up to a threat against their nascent Democracy. "I am more optimistic than ever that a free and stable Iraq can be achieved," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee. washingtontimes.com

To: Sully- who wrote (20500)	6/9/2006 12:49:44 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

Zarqawi Dead; Liberals In Denial Power Line How are our friends on the left reacting to the great news about Zarqawi? They aren't happy about it, if postings on Democratic Underground are any guide. Here are some typical entries: <<< Very curious. I wonder how this plays into neocon plans to attack Iran? How sad - you know my reaction?? I laughed out loud and said the same thing you did, "AGAIN???" How sad that we cannot trust our government to be honest with us in matters of war and death. The boy who cried wolf is not believed in my house. Z has only one leg and has already died or escaped so many times...Nah. I don't believe the story. I don't buy it either...Wonder if they had to cut off the leg of the "Zarqawi" for authenticity purposes? Convenient too that this would happen now....guess we should just all forget about that Haditha mess, the fact that we are approaching 2,500 dead and the fact that our economy is in big trouble. It's almost an "open joke" among the military and civilians who know how PsyOps operate, and the History, that Zarqowi is merely a "Pentagon creation." And oh, don't we need some good news now? It's so predictable I could write the OP Orders. It's all bullshit LIES paraded around for PR exploitation. >>> There are many, many more, but you get the drift. These people are lost souls, and it would be easy either to laugh at them or to feel sorry for them, but for their enormous influence within the Democratic Party. powerlineblog.com democraticunderground.com

To: Sully- who wrote (20500)	6/9/2006 2:34:39 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

The Nation's Pulse Withdrawn Democrats By Andrew Cline American Spectator Published 6/9/2006 What to do with the news that a terrorist master responsible for the murder of untold numbers of American servicemen and women has been killed? Well, for many Democrats, that was a question that actually required thought before being answered. No instantaneous rejoicing. No thankfulness that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was sent to his maker courtesy of 1,000 pounds of American-made munitions delivered via F-16. No, the first reaction of many Democrats was either worry or disdain. Worry over how to spin a response so that it brings maximum political advantage, and disdain that the U.S. military had a victory on President Bush's watch. The other reaction was incredulity. Some Democrats believe the whole story was fabricated by the military to distract from the "truth" of Bush's failure as a President. Consider the following comments made by actual Democrats: <<< Am I the only one who thinks this is one big scam on America and the world, to make it look like they "killed a main terrorist" and rid the world of an evil person?" They said they identified the so called body with his fingerprints, where did they get Zarqawi's finger prints? I know he was supposedly jailed in Jordan for a while. Do they keep fingerprints on everyone in the world? This news comes as the marriage amendment failed....again Bush's poll numbers are slipping faster then a speeding nascar. I don't buy it." -- "Wahoo," a poster on Democrats.com Understandably, there is a lot of media coverage on Zarqawi today. In all the hours and hours of coverage, has anyone mentioned that the President could have killed Zarqawi before the Iraq War but chose not to? -- "Georgia10," a poster on DailyKos Zarqawi was quite probably a psy ops job in the first place, so what does that make his "death"? Keep your eyes on the prize: Gay marriage? Haditha. Flag burning? Haditha! Brangelina? HADITHA! Zarqawi? HADITHA!!!" -- Christopher Day, a poster on DailyKos >>> <<< I do not believe this al Zarqwai bullsh**, because it is all too convenient. It's another wave of propaganda from the Bush cabal. He was likely killed years ago, or is still alive. Something smells rotten. -- "Liberalmuse," a poster on Democratic Underground >>> <<< Just as the American public begins to look into Haditha, this happens. I'm going to be interested as to how Bush's approval rating changes, as well as how long we've known where this guy was. I'd like to think that it was just a coincidence, but it would be valuable to know all the facts. -- "Imagine1989," a poster on Democratic Underground >>> One of the most interesting discussions I read was on the Democratic Underground blog. A brave soul posited that it was good that Zarqawi was dead because he was killing American GIs. The poor person was attacked, called brainwashed, was told he was living in fantasyland and was told numerous times to "wake up." Now, maybe these folks aren't representative of other Democrats. So lets see some who are. John Kerry, the party's nominee for President in 2004 (can't get more representative than that), said, <<< "Our troops have done their job in Iraq, and they've done it valiantly. It's time to work with the new Iraqi government to bring our combat troops home by the end of this year." >>> Well, at least he believes Zarqawi (a) existed, and (b) was killed. But did he really say that our job in Iraq was finished? Yep, it's Miller Time. Mission Accomplished. Amazing. I didn't realize we'd fought a war for three years to kill Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said, <<< "Democrats have long said that 2006 must be a year of significant transition in Iraq, where the Iraqis take responsibility for their security. The death of al Zarqawi and the naming of the Iraqi Defense and Interior Minister should bring us closer to that goal, and hasten the day when American troops can come home." >>> Other top Democrats were more measured, but withdrawal clearly is becoming the Democrat message. Not victory, but withdraw. The No. 1 goal will be to "support the troops, bring them home." The death of Zarqawi illustrated this quite unmistakably. The Democrats have made getting the troops home the top priority. Sounds nice, but that is no strategy for victory, it is a strategy for surrender. The Democratic Party's goal is to end the conflict, not win the conflict, when it should be the other way around. If the Democrats have their way and bring the troops home before Iraq is secured, then it will mean that all the coalition forces who have died there will have died in vain. It is becoming increasingly evident that the Democrats are striving for exactly that. Andrew Cline is editorial page editor of the New Hampshire Union Leader. spectator.org

To: Sully- who wrote (20500)	6/9/2006 2:46:08 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

I saw the Berg interview. The Fox folks were respectful but didn't allow Mr. Berg's unhinged statements to stand. You could see how tense everyone on the set was. The fear was palpable. And that is what Ann Coulter's whole point is about. No one wants to stand up to these people out of respect for their deep loss even when they parrot seditious lies from the DNC & MSM. That's why the DNC & MSM trot them out there in the public eye so often. They don't give a rat's ass about the loss these people have suffered. They know they can score free points with these useful idiots. Useful idiots Jospeh Crowley The American Thinker Early this morning the father of Nick Berg, one of the hostages that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi beheaded personally, did a phone interview on Fox News. They almost had to cut him off because he launched into an anti-Bush rant that bordered on a Cindy Sheehan moment. Mark my words…that man will be showcased in/on every left-wing old-media outlet in the world. Ann Coulter is right when she says Dems keep using these terror victims family members to beat the liberal-left’s anti-war drum and it’s pathetic and frankly, it’s sickening. americanthinker.com today.reuters.com

To: Sully- who wrote (20500)	6/9/2006 3:37:05 AM
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Michael Berg Defends al-Zarqawi, Hangs Up On Gibby (AUDIO) By Ian on Liberal Hate Expose the Left pic of Cindy Sheehan & Michael Berg Michael Berg, the father of Nick Berg, who was beheaded by al-Zarqawi, was on The John Gibson Show earlier this afternoon to defend the dead terrorist and blast President Bush. Berg, who is not new to the Bush bashing scene, claimed the President has killed over 150,000 people, while al-Zarqawi has only a “couple hundred” “attributed” to him. He says President Bush is “almost as bad as” al-Zarqawi and called the terrorist’s death a “tragedy.” When asked if he sees any difference between George Bush and al-Zarqawi, Berg responded “No I don’t.” Berg is running for Congress on this message and claims he has a lot of support. AUDIO – .MP3 video.exposetheleft.net feeds.feedburner.com gibsonradio.com bergforcongress.us