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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Cogito who wrote (77059)	6/12/2006 6:04:21 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

I admire Bill Clinton for his abiltity to communicate with others in debate and to persuade even his opposition. However to a great degree he relies on charm, which to me is manipulative. I don't mind a pursuasive argument that is based on sound reason and principle but the moment I feel any manipulation or coersion is in play is the moment that I take offense. I don't agree that the right wing accomplished nothing. They exposed some dishonorable character flaws that run deep. Philandering, partying as a youth, draft dodging, the jazzy hippy factor, left wing social movement, all played well on Bill Clinton's platform, we all knew this was Bill Clinton's persona when he was running for election and we gave him our overwhelming support. Change from the conservative establishment in government was long over due. Our culture changed in the sixties and seventies to be liberal but the conservative establishment (after Carter) had a lock on political power. None of that mattered until he tried to include us as cohorts in dishonor. That was his misjudgement that lost the decent folk of the country. When he made it clear that he expected us to 'go along' with dishonesty he made it clear that he was selling us out and even the left wing platform for his own need to hold onto power. What ever there was to admire in Bill Clinton was sacrificed by the finger wagging episode and subsequent comments like 'depends on what the meaning of is, is...'. The following exposure to his issues in court and out were simply sickening. He would have done himself and the rest of the country a great favor to let Gore pick up the reins. He would have been viewed as a martyr instead of a failed human being. "The great advantage the Right has now is that they subscribe to that ridiculous maxim, uttered first by Donald Rumsfeld, I think; "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." While technically correct, in practical application it leads to a situation where you can assert anything you want to about your opponent, even if you don't have a shred of real evidence to back up your claim. Then, when anyone points out you don't have any evidence, you can just repeat that line." I haven't heard that. Nice analysis on your part too. It paraphrases our justice system where 'Not Guilty' does not prove 'innocence'. I don't think it has been used to allege unproven guilt all over the place as you imply. Most unproven allegations I have heard over the past few years have come from the left where conspiracy theory abounds. I don't blame the left wing for the paralysis currently displayed in our governance, I see the two ends of the continuum as equally responsible. The populace of young people are turned off to the whole idea of political change and renewal because there is little or no genuine cause left in the process. I am advocating a return to principle and conscience as a guide in political discourse. The confused priorities, incompetency, and corruption of our system can be understood best by identifying the degree of politicalization of social issues that have bushwhacked rational discourse. Best Regards, Gem