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To: LindyBill who wrote (169860)	6/14/2006 11:32:01 AM
From: D. Long	Respond to of 793853

Their primary talking point is that the prisoners there suffer “despair.” An editorial on Monday spoke of a “netherworld of despair.” Human Rights Watch has chimed in with “incredible despair”. And this morning the Times runs an op-ed headlined “Detainees in Despair” written by someone who has been released from Gitmo So what would be different if they were classified as POWs and could be held indefinitely until the end of hostilities? Nothing. Are prisoner of war camps now to be outlawed? I imagine the POWs during WWII had a lot of "despair", not knowing how long the war would last. Derek

To: LindyBill who wrote (169860)	6/14/2006 4:30:09 PM
From: Alan Smithee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793853

The New York Times is campaigning to shut down Gitmo , the facility housing enemy combatants at Guantanamo Bay. Their primary talking point is that the prisoners there suffer “despair.” An editorial on Monday spoke of a “netherworld of despair.” Human Rights Watch has chimed in with “incredible despair”. And this morning the Times runs an op-ed headlined “Detainees in Despair” written by someone who has been released from Gitmo. Fine. Shut down Gitmo. Then ship them all to Pelican Bay. They'll know real despair there.

To: LindyBill who wrote (169860)	6/14/2006 9:31:53 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793853

If these Gitmo detainees are let go to the country of their origin, and detained there....are the cells and jail going to be like ours? What if these people are killed by the country of their origin? Is the Human Rights Watch going to take responsibility for sending them into the inferno? Or will the NYT, John Kerry and all the others who are wanting these people released.... Worse yet, what if these combatants come to do a 'redo' of 9-11.....Are any of the groups who wanted them released, going to take any responsibility for lives lost, and damage done?

To: LindyBill who wrote (169860)	6/15/2006 1:08:11 AM
From: Neeka	Respond to of 793853

Like everything else...........there is always two sides to every story. Afghans Declare Gitmo Conditions 'Humane' By TINI TRAN The Associated Press Wednesday, June 14, 2006; 11:19 AM KABUL, Afghanistan -- An Afghan delegation returning from a 10-day visit to the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay said Wednesday that prison conditions there were "humane." The head of the delegation, Abdul Jabar Sabhet of the Interior Ministry, said the delegation was given the chance to speak freely with all 96 Afghan prisoners about their living conditions. Sabhet said there were "only one or two" complaints. "Conditions of the jail was humane. There were rumors in this country about that. It was wrong. What we have seen was OK," he said. Sabhet's assessment comes five days after the suicides of three detainees at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba. He said more than half of the Afghan prisoners were expected to be transferred soon, though he didn't have an exact date. "We ensure the Afghan people that Afghan prisoners will soon return to our country," he said. Last August, the United States and the Afghan government announced an agreement to send Afghans held at the detention center and elsewhere back to their country. No date was specified at the time. Those expected to be released soon were accused of less serious crimes, Sabhet said. American and allied Afghan forces captured thousands of suspected Taliban and al-Qaida members in Afghanistan after a U.S.-led invasion toppled the repressive Taliban government in late 2001. Hundreds of detainees were classified as "enemy combatants" and transferred to Guantanamo. Many have since been returned home. The three suicides Saturday were the first detainee deaths at Guantanamo _ where the U.S. holds about 460 men on suspicion of links to al-Qaida or the Taliban _ and the military said they have prompted a complete review of operations at the detention center. The Center for Constitutional Rights has called on the military to allow an emergency independent inspection of the base to confirm the causes of death of the three detainees and to provide an assessment of the health of the other prisoners. washingtonpost.com