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To: Ilaine who wrote (169873)	6/14/2006 12:08:21 PM
From: Murrey Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793883

If you attempt to speculate in court, opposing counsel will object "speculation, your Honor," or "no facts in evidence, your Honor," I understand about the factual presentation of evidence. You gather the facts. You filter the facts. You adjudicate the accuracy of the facts. What happens if your facts were in error. CB, we're splitting thin hairs here. I ask you again. Would you not use your powers of persuasion to convince the jury/American people, that the facts are accurate? If, in fact, you believed them to be true? This is very subtle and the "Bush lied" mantra is nothing more than a spin coming from those who were not privy to the facts. Or at least, as someone said, cherry picked the facts. I've said it before, what's done is done, and history will be the final judge. You or I will not probably be around to hear the outcome of whether Bush's presentation was factual.

To: Ilaine who wrote (169873)	6/14/2006 4:54:02 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793883

Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor pre-emptively, Hitler attacked Russia pre-emptively. This is not considered a good thing. We told Saddam we were coming if he didn't step down. These two were done secretly without warning. Major difference.

To: Ilaine who wrote (169873)	6/14/2006 5:04:07 PM
From: DMaA	Respond to of 793883

You really need to rethink those historical parallels. The wax on the Russian German peace treaty was hardly dry when Germany attacked. The Japanese had diplomats in DC negotiating a peace treaty while the bombing was taking place. It's true that throughout history, nations have attacked other nations -- Japan attacked the US at Pearl Harbor pre-emptively, Hitler attacked Russia pre-emptively.