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To: Elroy who wrote (189315)6/14/2006 1:12:42 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I've said that in the UN vote for establishment of Israel the "no" votes of all the neighbors should be given more weight than they were.

I like that. Why do I care what DC, 3000 miles away,votes on? I'm doing what my neighbors want.



To: Elroy who wrote (189315)6/14/2006 6:33:27 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
I think the basic idea of a country founded on exclusion (we are a Jewish nation) rather than inclusion (we accept all peoples) is wrong

In this case, you have a big problem with about 99% of all nation states today. The US is really the only nation that entirely bases citizenship on a contract, not ethnic or cultural relations. The states of Europe are struggling with altering their self identities, which all have ethic and cultural origins.

Furthermore, every country in the world (except the ones nobody wants to go to) excludes some people from immigrating.



To: Elroy who wrote (189315)6/14/2006 6:33:49 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
I think the basic idea of a country founded on exclusion (we are a Jewish nation) rather than inclusion (we accept all peoples) is wrong

In this case, you have a big problem with about 99% of all nation states today. The US is really the only nation that entirely bases citizenship on a contract, not ethnic or cultural relations. The states of Europe are struggling with altering their self identities, which all have ethic and cultural origins.

Furthermore, every country in the world (except the ones nobody wants to go to) excludes some people from immigrating.