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To: Elroy who wrote (189399)6/15/2006 3:31:50 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Well the question is whether the US and planet would be better off, not whether a messed up region would be stengthened. Personally I think the US should disengage from a war which is not of the US's making, not in the US's interest, and appears to have NO long term solution. Let the interested parties fight it or resolve it themselves.

The era of globalization is here, and nobody can put that genie back in the bottle. Sixty years ago, isolationists could argue that we did not need to involve ourselves with the old world; our oceans would protect us. Who can argue that today?

There were Islamist fundies 100 years ago, but the difference is, that the Mahdi had zero chance of being able to blow up Queen Victoria in Buckingham Palace in London. Not true today.

Now, if the messed up Arab world didn't produce oil, we would have a greater chance to control the damage.For starters, they wouldn't have the funds to make so much mischief. But it does, and they do. Even if we were to get off oil entirely ourselves, we still need to make sure that India and Japan and China keep going. That means we can't leave the Middle East to just blow up into anarchy or fascism on its own. Not without paying the price of a real WWIII.

So there is no better alternative that trying to push the Arab world to come to terms with the modern world. That being said, it is better to support the moderates than the Islamists.



To: Elroy who wrote (189399)6/15/2006 1:12:27 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Personally I think the US should disengage from a war which is not of the US's making, not in the US's interest, and appears to have NO long term solution. Let the interested parties fight it or resolve it themselves.

This is often the view of Americans who haven't looked very closely at the fight or the fighters. It's just a mideast thing, the tribes are going at each other, why should we care?

Well, lots of people do care and have to care, the mideast region being what is. Ironically, that's a major reason why the conflict remains unsettled. Every time the contestants have duked it out, the referees come running, blowing the whistle, twisting arms and 'peace processing'. So the Israelis remain alive, if harassed, and the Arabs are allowed to keep nursing the idea that next time, they can destroy Israel.