To: GST who wrote (189605 ) 6/19/2006 1:06:17 PM From: Brumar89 Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 "So long as ... we can all be proud .." Of course, you're speaking theoretically - you can't be proud of America today because you think America today is a nation which tortures people as a matter of policy, is a war-mongerer which invades countries for economic domination and personal gain, is one of the worst violators of human rights in the world - comparable to Saddam, Hitler, Stalin and any other famous tyrant you can name. And your current & past comments show that you think America has almost always been an evil abusive nation. For example, you infamously claimed to KNOW the US bombed the Chinese embassy in Serbia intentionally during the Clinton era. (Immediately after telling that lie - which you later admitted was a lie, you went on to praise the Chinese government for being so much more mature than we primitive Americans would have been if the situation had been reversed.) Also we know that in the 90's Clinton threatened Iraq with war and bombed it, as well as Afghanistan and Sudan, repeatedly. Clearly, you weren't proud of America during the Clinton era either. So if in your view, America isn't a country you can be proud of today and wasn't during the '90's, when did the America you could be proud of last exist? It certainly wasn't during the '80's (the Reagan-Bush era), was it? Nor during the 60's or 70's (the Vietnam era). How about the 50's (the era of the Korean war, among other interventions)? Nah. I suspect the only time you could have been proud of America was all the way back in the WWII era when we were briefly allied with the USSR and the Chinese and Viet communists against a common enemy. The presence of a significant portion of the population which, like you, reviles and despises their own country as evil is one of the major threats our nation faces.