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To: Brumar89 who wrote (189618)	6/17/2006 4:48:57 PM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

How come you dodged the question? - Don't you wish Republican President Abe Lincoln had just let the Confederacy go? I responded with: I don't know about "wish". Maybe you need a more elaborate answer.....I never really thought about "wishing" that Lincoln let the Confedercy go, so I can say that I have not wished that Lincoln let the Confedercy go. I don't feel it to be a compelling question related to the current proposition. What makes you think "other church leaders" feel any differently about Phelps than you do? I don't much care how they "feel". [Are you a female and we have to talk about "our feelings".] I care about what they say out loud. And what they say out loud is pretty lame. Was the Emancipation Proclamation un-Constitutional? Lincoln based the proclamation on his war powers, I think, and it only applied in states that were in rebellion. The insertion of "I think" in the middle of the sentence suggests an undue amount of uncertainty. But it raises another question. When the States seceded were they still part of the United States? Was their secession "invalid" in some way? Why do you care? I've thought about the Consitutional question rather than think about wishing whether Lincoln let the South go. Just goes to show you that people [you and I] think about different things. But you brought this tangent up. I propose that at least some of the red states secede from the United States. While there was a civil war over secession, I don't see anything in the Constitution that prevents a State from seceding. The States [not the people] ratified the Constitution, it seems reasonable to me that the States should be able to withdraw it they choose to. If the Feds want to have another Civil War over the red states seceding, I promise to demonstrate for the red state's right to secede. jttmab