To: sea_urchin who wrote (11226 ) 6/20/2006 4:30:04 PM From: Cyprian Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250 "Christian Zionism"? True Christians are gathered into the heavenly Zion, and count our citizenship there. We are strangers and pilgrims in this world, having no continuing city here. These all [Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham] died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. [Hebrews 11:13-16] Christians are not supposed to adore any city on earth. We are supposed to lift up our heads and look for redemption from heaven. We are called to scorn the lusts and desires of this world, in exchange for a better one to come. Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father......But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (John 4:21, 23-24) These so-called Christian Zionists are not Christian at all. They act like Jews, not Christians, lusting after worldly glory and adoring the earthly city of Jerusalem as if it were the house of God. Christ couldn't have been any more explicit. He said the TRUE worshippers worship in spirit and in truth, and not in an earthly mount Zion in Jerusalem. These so-called Christians Zionists are not Christians but are Judaic in their way of thinking, clamoring after Antichrist, and all the lustful desires he will offer to lure these people into worshipping him. Orthodox Christians completely reject earthly carnal Zionism. You're confusing protestants with Christianity. Protestants have no portion in Christ or his Church.