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To: one_less who wrote (24034)6/20/2006 6:50:28 PM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
A rain drop or a tree are irrational. They do not have the ability to observe and consciously understand the logical existence of each other.


Many plants detect and respond to rain.
This is particularly noticable in desert plants whose leaves remain tightly curled to prevent loss of moisture, but unfurl when moisture is present.

Now certainly that consciesness is rather limited, but it would appear to be a difference in quantity and not in kind.

TP



To: one_less who wrote (24034)6/21/2006 5:23:54 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
<The awareness of reason and ability to deal with reason may be measurable as a function of intelligence.">

Sorry, been busy... and these types of things seem to be sort of a "right brain" problem... pop up out of nowhere.

Anyway, here's a partial idea: We in our own bodies have all sorts of processes going on of which we are unaware at any given moment, or even all the time. Does this mean these don't exhibit 'intelligence'???

EX: Immune system, neuron activity, etc based on environmental stimuli. The body sending the right minerals to heal a broken bone also comes to mind... as do 'emotions' or even 'pain', itch, or other responses which don't necessarily come into "awareness"... at least right away??

It should be noted that there are varying degrees of awareness of these "automatic" processes.

dAK