To: JohnM who wrote (21649 ) 6/26/2006 3:58:37 PM From: TimF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543793 Criticized research doesn't mean false research, and there are other sources do support the idea that concealed has a negative impact on crime, at least some forms of crime, in particular rape. Lott's books quotes some older more limited studies, certainly he would pick the ones that support his case, he may also ignores those that do not, but the existence of the studies wasn't a fabrication by Lott. If you want to toss out Lott you have more limited studies to go by and you also have the report from the National Academy of Sciences that concluded that there was no reliable evidence that gun control reduced crime. That's not the same as Lott's point that eliminating some forms of gun control reduces crime, but still its an effective argument against gun control. As for my other sources, one was indeed a press release, and most of the argument here is just internet posts. If you want to challenge any of its claims please do so. The other compares two adjacent and similar counties in the same metro area. It certainly is not enough data to count as solid evidence that gun control increases crime, far from it, but it is an effective counter to similar statements about local jurisdictions or countries where that have extensive gun control and relatively low violent crime. At least it suggests that it isn't obvious that less guns or more gun control, means more violent crime. Generally there is a severe lack of evidence that implementing gun control leads to a noticeable drop in crime. If you think Lott's research is questionable than you don't have solid significant evidence that "more guns" means "less crime", but that really isn't necessary to rob gun control of most of its justification.