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To: bentway who wrote (189850)6/21/2006 12:28:25 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Interesting, so despite the fact that Japan, Germany and Korea have had multiple elections and during many of those elections, the issue of Americans troops being stationed there has been a critical campaign topic. And despite the fact that people voted to support candidates who ran on a platform of supporting U.S. troops stationed there, you think it was all a ruse?

See Chris, the problem with leftists like yourself is you can never actually adhere to the ballot box decisions of the majority of citizens. Instead, a few thousand demonstrators serves as justification for your twisted foreign policy beliefs.

The United States Congress, duly elected by the American people just passed a resolution to support continuing the efforts in Iraq (including 44 Democrats). The American people also supported President Bush in the last election to continue the effort. That IS REPUBLICAN DEMOCRACY in action.

Polls are not democracy. Poll questions can be manipulated and twisted to mean almost anything. The only thing that counts is the voting booth. And despite having a nonstop leftist media empire at your disposal spewing forth anti-American, anti-military and pro dictatorship ideals for decades, your policy prescriptions are failing in the only place that counts.

The voting booth.



To: bentway who wrote (189850)6/22/2006 12:28:32 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I think if the Japanese, German and Korean people were allowed to vote on the issue, we'd no longer be in their countries either.

What makes you think they aren't allowed to vote on it? A Japanese politician can run on a platform which includes removing US military bases from Japan.

There's no reason for us to be.

It saves them a hell of a lot of money. Japan and South Korea have China and North Korea right next door. Would you want the US military in South Korea if you were South Korean? I sure would.

As for what I'd like, I'd like to see an Iraq created by Iraqis, not American guns.

What if the Iraq created by Iraqis wind up being 1 million Iraqis killing and enslaving 23 million Iraqis? Just because they do it to themselves doesn't make it a good thing. Do you like the situation in Burma because it is created by the Burmese military dictators?

80% of Iraqis want us OUT.

If this were so then the Iraqi politicians that ran on getting the coalition out would have won in a landslide, right? They didn't, so your numbers must be wrong. Also, if it is really true, Iraqi politicians can run on that platform in the next election, and out the coalition will go.



To: bentway who wrote (189850)6/22/2006 6:05:42 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 281500
 
Japanese, Germans, Koreans, and now Iraqis and Afghanis can vote and if a majority wanted us out, they'd elect politicians to ask us to leave - which we would do willingly.

Oh, the people of those 5 countries and many others can vote because of the USA, the most benevolent world power in history.