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To: Suma who wrote (21672)	6/21/2006 4:19:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541455

integration is where the whites say blacks can come in, but then they leave Today's Fresh Air, by an interesting coincidence, had a segment on handgun violence in Philadelphia, and an organization formed by some people there in order to combat it. npr.org uphs.upenn.edu Reading between the lines -- and this is something that a cop would tell you but it's not polite to mention when you're being PC, one of the biggest demographic factors in gun violence is black on black, young black men in "inner cities", which are racially and economically segregated, no longer de jure but still de facto, and it's not getting better. Gang related, drug related, or just getting pissed off after an argument. According to FBI statistics, white people kill white people, black people kill black people, interracial violence is very rare. I've never seen any statistics on how many murderers and murder victims come from homes without a father present. That would be very interesting. How many other "developed" countries have a large underclass of unmarried women with children by multiple fathers living in abject poverty? Places like South Central LA and the island of Jamaica with 80% unwed mothers also have horrendous murder rates. Maybe there's no cause and effect here but I have a hard time believing it. In contrast, in Scandinavian countries with high out of wedlock birth rates, but low crime rates, the mothers don't live in poverty. Is it because these countries are "homogenous" or is "homogenous" code for these women being integrated into society instead of segregated?

To: Suma who wrote (21672)	6/22/2006 10:41:11 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541455

I have a friend with a similar experience. She was staying in a federal hotel,and was asked to be the only white in the choir. Everybody had to contribute a song. Her's was... If my words did glow with the gold of sunshine And my tunes were played on the harp unstrung Would you hear my voice come through the music Would you hold it near as it were your own? It's a hand-me-down, the thoughts are broken Perhaps they're better left unsung I don't know, don't really care Let there be songs to fill the air (Chorus) Ripple in still water When there is no pebble tossed Nor wind to blow Reach out your hand if your cup be empty If your cup is full may it be again Let it be known there is a fountain That was not made by the hands of men There is a road, no simple highway Between the dawn and the dark of night And if you go no one may follow That path is for your steps alone (Chorus) You who choose to lead must follow But if you fall you fall alone If you should stand then who's to guide you? If I knew the way I would take you home "Ripple" Words by Robert Hunter; music by Jerry Garcia. ("Ripple" composed and written by Jerry Garcia and Robert Hunter. Reproduced by arrangement with Ice Nine Publishing Co., Inc. (ASCAP))