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To: mph who wrote (21693)	6/22/2006 10:20:20 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541479

I don't think feminism per se is the answer to anything That's probably because you don't have any idea what feminism is. First and foremost, it means that women aren't adjuncts to men, they're volitional individuals in their own right, with civil rights and civil responsibilities. It means, at a minimum, that women have the right to be educated, to work, to vote, and the obligation to not dress or behave like sex objects. I don't think that message is getting through.

To: mph who wrote (21693)	6/22/2006 12:23:32 PM
From: Suma	Respond to of 541479

When I lived in St. Thomas way back when it was a lovely place I might add, it was not uncommon for the men to report to you I have two children and 3 outside .... The latter was what they had with another woman or women.. What made this acceptable on some degree... was that they took care of ALL of their children..It was just the custom... No one thought much about it.

To: mph who wrote (21693)	6/22/2006 2:57:51 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541479

In this day and age do you really think young black women are somehow internalizing some message of being stay at home moms put forth by some religious establishment? I don't. If they really believed the traditional message, they wouldn't be having out of wedlock children with 3 or 4 different men, as opposed to the traditional marriage with children. Much, much too sweeping. In fact, well into the territory of stereotyping a population. "Young black women" are in a great many different places, some attending expensive colleges, some attending public colleges and working extra jobs to get through; some working very hard to get through high school; etc. And some doing as you say. If you wish this to be a post about the issue rather than about yourself, you might post some statistics, including comparisons with some other population: young Asian women, young "white" women, whatever.