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To: GST who wrote (190041)	6/25/2006 2:49:28 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Human rights values are the core of America. Your dismissal of American values as 'grandiose' speaks volumes about the kind of person you are. Listen @sshole... We firebombed any number of cities, as well as turned Hiroshima and Nagasaki into nuclear ashtrays, without much regard for human rights. The Japanese, had they possessed the same ability, would have done the same thing to us (look at the plans they had for using biological weapons against the west coast of the US). So much for "human rights" in WWII, eh? You DO NOT permit a brutal enemy who knows no rules to force you to hobble your own strategy by forcing to uphold the standards they willingly find weak. I'm ALL FOR human values. But I'm NOT for bestowing them upon brutal men who violate them at every opportunity. I'll concur with just about whatever is required to destroy the ideology that has fostered Islamo-Fascism. And once it's destroyed, then we can get on with restoring the humanity which has been stripped from us by the events of 9/11. War is not pretty GST. You cannot "pretty" it up, or make it civilized because, in the end, it's about man killing man until one side concedes defeat or is destroyed as a military threat. The only rules are those that BOTH PARTIES agree, directly, or indirectly, to observe (which is the reason that Germany did not use chemical weapons against allied forces, or vice versa). War is not criminal law, nor is it governed by criminal law. War is governed by a "law of war" that MUTUAL SOVEREIGN NATIONS AGREE TO ADHER TO. Show me the sovereign nation that Al Qai'da represents? Show me where they signed any of these accords, or even pledge adherence to them? They don't care. They have no rules except to win (or sustain their terrorist operations in years to come). It's fine to uphold SELF-IMPOSED values, when it benefits us. But we shouldn't deny ourselves the right to unleash the same terror upon the enemy as they are willing to unleash against us. Hawk