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To: koan who wrote (14300)6/23/2006 6:32:15 PM
From: E. Charters  Respond to of 78412
 
Teller was very bright and cured himself of cancer by ignoring medical advice and doubling his dosage.

He may have been right about Oppenheimer. The FBI thought so well before Teller told on him. It may be true that Oppenheimer who had many conscience attacks over using bombs and the unilateral possesion of the technology decided to leak the material to the Soviets as he believed in the stand off concept. He was afraid of unilateralism leading to the use of the bomb from the lack of impunity. If he were more familiar with game theory and the end-game zero benefit concept of Von Neumann, he would have realized that the only-possessor achieves maximum benefit from NOT using them/it i.e the secret weapon of unassailable strength!http://cse.stanford.edu/class/sophomore-college/projects-98/game-theory/neumann.html

"In his 1928 article, "Theory of Parlor Games," Von Neumann first approached the discussion of game theory, and proved the famous Minimax theorem. From the outset, Von Neumann knew that game theory would prove invaluable to economists. He teamed up with Oskar Morgenstern, an Austrian economist at Princeton, to develop his theory."

Von Neumann believed in first strike to protect the secret. However he was wrong in this implementation of his theory. In fact it does not predict the usage of FS. It does only if you introduce the variable of secret leakage and only if you believe that the war will cure all. Of course that is not true!! So in the end it defeats itself and is not zero sum concept unless total annihiliation is antiseptic, and other enemies do not develop because of this action. In effect the prospect of secret leakage could have caused a war which means that Oppenheimer was playing avery dangerous game indeed.

It may be that the Chicago scientists conspired to leak the secrets to the enemy. I believe they did. We know the secret was not leaked from Canada where the fission bomb was invented before Szilard or Teller even got here. It was however leaked to Israel by certain Chemists in the late seventies from U of T. There probably was complicity in Ottawa to do so. The subsequent leakage to Pakistan was probably by espionage and some dubious thinking on the part of the CDN government and due to espionage on the part of Indians working on the Shiva reactor (A Canadian Gift to India) who in fact were Muslims sympathetic to Pakistan. They probably were Bengali in origin.

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To: koan who wrote (14300)6/23/2006 11:16:45 PM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78412
 
"Ve do the impossible quickly, the merely difficult takes much longer"



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To: koan who wrote (14300)6/24/2006 7:37:21 PM
From: Gib Bogle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78412
 
Dr. Strangelove