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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (190108)	6/25/2006 3:38:38 AM
From: RMF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hey Hawk....You can STILL be an objective liberal or even an objective conservative and be OBSESSED with THIS administration. The Chinese have become our bankers, we rack up a HALF-TRILLION in new debt a year. The dollar is down over 30% and everybody expects it to tank much more. Our military is getting beat down in Iraq with the only result being that another million Muslims feel like jumping on the Jihad bandwagon every year. N. Korea had maybe 2 nukes when Bush came in and now it seems they've probably got at least 6-8. So getting obsessed about Bush is really a natural condition if you are the least bit aware of the damage that Texas moron's administration has done.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (190108)	6/25/2006 7:06:31 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Just as you are a fake. You try and pawn yourself off as an objective liberal, but IN REALITY you're OBSESSED with George Bush Jr. Dubya is the President of the United States. He sets foreign policy. You don't. You're just a dumb sh!t that's led around by the nose with simple catchy phrases; inconsistent from one post to another. But as your response illustrates, you don't have any catchy phrases to respond to all the regimes that Dubya embraces or is willing to ignore their human rights violations. You can't think of any catchy phrases on your own. You don't know what it means to win the GWOT, but you're going to win it, because Dubya says we're going to win it and you can repeat that. You've been taught to dodge the contradictions with catchy little phrases and attacks on the "liberal" media. Because MY IDEAS AND THOUGHTS are INDEPENDENT of GWJr. Really? So you were a strong proponent of nation building before Dubya came into office? All the conservatives on the thread were opposed to nation building before Dubya. Now you think you can re-shape the mid-east into a collection of model democracies. All because the fascist from Crawford leads you around by the nose with catchy little phrases. You think the leaders and people of the mid-east are sitting there yearning for the model of democracy that Iraq offers? Tell me what YOUR THOUGHTS are on that. I know the catchy phrase response already..."No one promised a democracy overnight." So skip that catchy phrase please. But if he doesn't really believe his own words, then that's irrelevant as well since he'll be out of office in two years. The 2500 dead Americans soldiers are irrelevant? The 10s of thousands of dead Iraqis are irrelevant? The credibility of the US government is irrelevant? The national debt is irrelevant? The upward spiraling terrorism around the world is irrelevant? Is it all irrelevant because you won't remember what happened two years from now? They'll be someone else in two years who will give you catchy little phrases to repeat and you'll be happy as a clam. Every day you want to inch the US to a regime rather than a democracy. The US Constitution is irrelevant other than the powers that it affords the Commander in Chief. There's no objections by you to the signing statements by Bush that claims the laws don't apply to the Administration. The Geneva Conventions became irrelevant when you were told they were quaint and obsolete. jttmab