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To: TigerPaw who wrote (24136)6/29/2006 5:39:00 PM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
That is similar to a theory of infinites...

I suppose I should be consistent, at least in the same day.

There is no "theory" of infinites int the scientific sense.
There is at best speculation on the subject because it is not testable in any current framework. It's easy to fall into the venacular use of the word "theory", but since we were this day making distinctions between actual theories and so-called theories I figure I should be more exact.

TP



To: TigerPaw who wrote (24136)6/29/2006 6:19:04 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
"Things that are discovered or rediscovered exist 'someplace' prior to discovery.

That really doesn't make sense."


Our context was ideas and discovery or rediscovery of ideas. In the example given, rocks exist in the time frame we were discussing (1000 years prior to now, up to now). The Austrailian from one thousand years ago can get the idea of rocks and I can get the same idea of rocks without getting it from him. We may, do different things with the idea, skip it across water, break it down into basic elements for further study etc. But we get the same impression when we go to the stream to view the idea. It is a rock.

Rocks are rocks and we can have a common awareness of them. But our conscious awareness of rocks requires getting that idea from some place. My contention is that 'someplace' in this case can be in a particular space and time without being dependant on that space and time. That is, presupposing that the Austrailian and I are getting the same idea of a rock.



To: TigerPaw who wrote (24136)6/30/2006 12:05:42 AM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
< It's not true that elephants were a potential waiting to be realized, they didn't exist.>

LOL... how the hell do you know? In fact isn't the world the way it is "now" a potential waiting to be realized since it was a fire ball? I mean, your assertion makes no sense... unless you think god zapped an elephant into being one day? I think were running into a problem of the meaning of words here.

DAK