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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (77804)	6/30/2006 10:09:23 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Osama is a big supporter of Bush-Cheney. He wants Bush to be our president. He wanted him to invade Iraq and get stuck there. You have no idea how perfectly that played into Al Qaida's longterm strategy. Now wonder the CIA analysts all agreed that Osama's video right before the election was a main reason Bush got so many votes. Whomever Osama attacks gets popular in the US. So why would Osama attack Kerry. Kerry is the last president Osama would want. Kerry would get us out of Iraq, and then kill actual terrorists. Including Osama himself. PS: Did you know Osama's cousin was an investor in Bush's first company? No spin.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (77804)	7/1/2006 12:31:45 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Nadine - I didn't make up the idea that the vast majority of terrorist acts against Israel were in retaliation for actions Israel had taken. The terrorists themselves have been saying it virtually every time, about nearly every act. Note that I am talking specifically about Israel and the Palestinian conflict. Way back in 1952, when a family of Jews was murdered in a town near the Jordanian border, an Israeli army unit entered Jordan and wiped out every man, woman and child in it, in the name of revenge. The Israeli government disavowed this act, saying that it had been the work of a rogue unit commander. (The commander was Ariel Sharon, for those of you who don't know this story. Yes, that Ariel Sharon.) Of course, the Jordanians felt that revenge had to be exacted for the murder of all those Jordanian innocents. And so on. It hasn't stopped yet. This isn't a matter of my reasoning as much as it is observation, and it doesn't apply to the history of the fascist movements. The fascists mounted armies and invaded other countries. They were using military force, and it made perfect sense to use military force against them. - Allen PS: Game Theory, that obscure branch of mathematics John Nash worked in, can be and has been applied to the situation between Israel and the Palestinians, and it predicts that there can never be a winner, nor even an end to the conflict, as long as each side believes that every act by the other side must be avenged.