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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (8909)	7/1/2006 2:25:08 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14758

Well, nothing is my term, I admit. Guys like Hawking and Penrose call the beginning of the universe a singularity, a point at which matter had infinite density and zero size. (Zero size prompts me to say nothing.) The laws of physics were not operational and matter and energy as they exist now didn't exist. Space and time also began at or with the singularity. HotLiquidMagma.com A Practical Guide to Astronomy The Big Bang: When Time Began The Theory Stephen Hawking calculated that black holes emit quantum radiation. Based on Einstein's theory of bending light, Hawking was able to figure when enough mass is concentrated as in a large collapsing star, that curvature becomes extreme enough to prevent light from escaping- thus you have a large black hole. A black hole has a point of infinite density and zero size, called a "singularity". Hawking then theorized; by reversing time, using the black hole model, time must have had a beginning, a point in the past where time as we know it began; 10 to the -43 second. This is the point in time where we can not go any further back- the outer limit. A History of the Universe in 4 Frames Phase 1: At the beginning of time, from complete nothingness, a cosmic explosion ignites. Phase 2: The thrust from the explosion sends billions of tons of energy through space and the elements begin to cool. Phase 3: Galaxies begin to take shape while still moving away from the initial point of ignition Phase 4: The universe continues to expand to this very day. hotliquidmagma.com Clearly the universe had a beginning. And it had to have had a cause that brought it into existence. You can say you don't know what created the universe, but you can't say that nothing created it.